We already used 2 1st rd picks on OL. Let's use this thing called free agency. No team spends three 1st rd pick in 3 years on OL. Draft McFadden! We need an offensive playmaker teams respect...right now, we have none.
In response to some of the points made above: I am not saying that the Jets need to take an OL with their first round pick - I am saying that McFadden is a waste until the OL is upgraded. If anyone watched that game yesterday and saw the sieve that is the Jets pass protection, how can the Jets even think of drafing a RB As for getting an "impact" player - there are impact players at every position. If you look at where NFL teams are spending money nowadays - which is a real indication of impact - it is at OT, DL and CB (also QB, but that is not relevant here). Big money is not being spent on RBs. As for getting a player with "identity" or who will give the Jets "identity" - give me a break!! This is football, not American Idol. You draft players to win football games, not popularity contests. This Jets don't need to sell tickets. The Jacksonville Jaguars had no players picked for the Pro-Bowl, but I would swap teams with them in a heartbeat. Those of you who say the Jets need an identity - go down the other 31 teams and tell me what their "identity" is? That is just BS. The Jets should use their top pick on an impact defensive player for the front 7. If they do not like what is available when they pick or if the value is not there, they should trade down and draft linemen on either side of the ball. I've seen far too many RBs drafted onto teams with bad OL and end up hurt or ineffective. Drafting a RB without an OL is like buying a car without an engine. It looks nice - but it is not going anywhere. Bottom line - the Jets don't need a skill player to give them an identity. They need to shore up the trenches.
Joe Willie....What u say is silly. It's a stupid thing to even put your name too. Jets' need a game-breaker at RB. When a RB is great...blocking doesn't have to be as good as for a reagular RB. It also hides some of your OL's weakneses. I'm not saying don't fix the OL, but the Superstar RB helps the whole offense....PERIOD!!!! McFadden not only can run, but he can pass. He's a Larry Johnson clone. Do u see the size of this guy? He's not a lil boy. Do u see what Adrian Peterson is doing for the Vikings. If u can't see this...then u r maybe...:drunk: . Now if McFadden is gone...then sure, go after the best defensive player available. I like the USC (LB) Keith Rivers #55 as Jets' #1 choice.
Speaking of saying silly things: I can make a list a mile long of game-breaking RBs that played behind weak lines and did not bring their teams post-season success - Sanders, Sayers, Simpson to name a few. The OL is the key to the offense and makes the skill players go, not the other way around. Defenses in the NFL are too good for a RB to make plays on his own. Your comment about the RB carrying the offense is silly. McFadden can pass? Are you saying we should play him at QB too??? What does his passing ability have to do with anything?? Bringing up Larry Johnson proves my point exactly. He had two very good seasons behind a good OL. This year he played behind a bad OL with no passing game and, big as he is, was ordinary, then got hurt. How much did he help the Chiefs and thier offense this year?? He will turn 29 next season and maybe has 2 years left tops. By the time the Chiefs rebuild their offense, he will be finished. The Vikings did not draft Peterson until after they seriously upgraded their OL the year before. Chester Taylor, by the way, is also averaging over 5 yards a carry this year. Once the Jets upgrade their OL and fix the defense, we can start talking about RB. Besides, what in the world is wrong with Jones and Washington as a tandem?? And wasn't Jones supposed to fix the Jets running game. By the way, Jones was a high first round draft pick himself and is now with his third team I think you, my friend, are the one who has been drinking.
The problem with your logic is that you are ASSUMING that unknown nfl entity will be a star like Toon. That is always the problem with people who get so emotionally involved with these kinds of picks.
Do you really think that we'll win any bidding wars in FA when competing in-division for the same positions with Parcells? I'm not saying we should spend the top-5 pick we're about to get on a lineman, but the pool of veterans is never that rich. Trade down and build.
QFT. OL >>>> RB RB with good O-line >>>> RB with bad O-line Now...if we sign good, young O-line players...we *could* draft McFadden with the depth at other positions of need in the draft. Say we sign Jacob Bell for LG and Stacy Andrews at RT. We've not got some hope in the O-line being pretty decent going into the next season. If that happens then we definitely have to and *should* go after McFadden. Mangini seems to sign FAs so he can go BPA early in the draft and then need/depth later. With the depth at DE/OLB (a guy like Ellis would be there in the early second) and DE (Moore and Balmer should be drafted late first/early second)...signing O-line in FA and then drafting McFadden seems to be the best case scenario for the offseason, and it's not impossible. We also could sign Faneca and draft a RT after taking McFadden, but I don't like Faneca so I hope that doesn't happen.
When you go the entire career like a guy such as Sanders without post-season success, that's a testament to a decade of front office incompetence that goes well beyond the "mistake" of taking a HOF caliber running back.
If we beat the Cheifs and have No.7 pick, I'm all for trading down..but which teams would want our slot, though?
Tell you the truth, my scenario is actually assuming that McFadden is there when we pick, if he isn't then I don't know that we will be able to trade down for decent value... although we might be able to trade this year's pick to next season and acquire maybe a 3rd in addition from a desperate team. Depends on who the scouts dig and who they don't. I'll admit that I am the furthest thing from a draftnik, and haven't really had the time to research who will be available, but I know that we have traded up enough in the past decade that the risk in trading down is far less when you consider the level of talent we've been able to find in the middle rounds with our current scouting teams.
if we win and have a pick around #7, we'll be in position to take a guy like Long, Gholston, or Laurianitas that the people on this thread would prefer reaching for at #3.
True, but having a good one locked up behind a good O-line can't hurt. I do agree that RB is a position where you can spend less if you want.
I agree with your post. We have so many holes on the lines that we need to sure up those positions first. I would also argue we need another WR in the mold of a Moss or Owens.
i want to see thomas jones get better behind an improved line. lets get our line up to scratch first. if we cna take him and improve our line, then yes. sweet...foooor shoooo
we have no game changing offinse talent alot of good to nice players he is also6-2 i believe and can play widout qb to change things up not alot but he can do it alot better than brad smith we need a offensive td threat every play and he can be it
