It's fair to question the play call but in fairness to Sparano the play actually did work. It was just failed execution by Schilens as Mark put it right where only he could catch it and he failed. If you do want to throw there I question shotgun formation with 5 wide though. At least threaten them with the run.
By the way anyone longing for Schotty is just a moron. Seriously. I watched the Rams-Pack game with a couple of Packer fan buddies and I was telling them what was coming. His offense was stifled against a Packer D that gives up chunks of yardage. The passes short of the sticks on 3rd down. The shifts he employed. He never threatend a weak Packer secondary all game with a pass over 12-15 yards. All short stuff. His red zone calls NEVER went to the end zone ONCE. That is what we would have seen yesterday at New England if he was here. We saw the same thing last year up there. He never would have attacked the NE weakness in the secondary. He showed it yesterday that he wouldn't in a somewhat similar situation. Say what you want about Sparano he attacked this secondary deep when he could. A couple of times field position played a role in him playing it safe but for the most part the guy calls throws down the field. I wasn't a big Sparano guy to begin with but so far this year I have very few complaints with him. He can't do anything about the drops, Sanchez inaccuracy and baffling decisions. He has put them in postion to succeed. Just need better execution. Schilens and Hill need to come up with those balls.
Bullshit. The offense played their asses off. The magic 5second clock stoppage, and the phantom PI call from 25 yards away were the determining factor. Period. If you want to blame Sparano for The LB beating Howard like a drum on the last play, that's not his fault either
If Hill makes the catch iin Regulation, they put 7 on the board.not 3. If the clock operator is honest, the Jets kneel down 3 times and get out with a win. If the ref doesn't throw a phantom flag from 25 yards downfield, when the ref that had the play in his face called incomplete...the Jets take two plays kick a FG and win.
Is it just me that blames the loss on special teams then? I know it was early in the game but come on, a drop can happen at any time but if you can't stop one guy on a 104 yard dash then the special team staff need cutting.
When the Jets had Jones, Cotch and Edwards, they went to the AFC Champ Game. When they changed out Jones for LT the next year, they went back. And of course they did not have Holmes before Jones left, either. And in the first of those years, Sanchez was a rookie, and a sophomore the next. This year's team is not going to the Champ Game, I don't think. And you really thought Burress was a big factor last year??? Compared to last year, this year's team no longer has Wayne F'ing Hunter at RT. You don't think Howard is an upgrade there? And you really think Burress no longer being here is a big negative? The fact is the main difference from last year right now is that Holmes is out. I agree that is a big factor. But even taking that into account I don't see how the O is better than last year's. It is arguably worse.
Typical Jets fan thread: The crybabies and second guessers outnumber the rational people by 5 to 1. Coach Sparano's offense put up enough yardage, time of possession, and points to win the game. It was a special teams breakdown that allowed a kickoff to be returned for a TD that cost the Jets a very very improbably win that nobody thought they were capable of only two days ago. Somewhere in the above message is this... QUIT WHINING!
Good point. No crying if you're happy about moral victories. Btw I was looking for stats on moral victories and couldn't find any. You must know of some.
One play call doesn't win or lose games. If that play was executed it wouldn't be mentioned, but Chaz fucked it up. Overall the game plan was pretty solid. Sparano was trying to catch em off guard. I would have rather run it with Greene, but it was actually a 3rd and almost 2, not really a 3rd and 1 or less. It's like everything else if it works it was the best call ever, if not, it was stupid as hell.
None of these crybabies realize that we didn't have Revis, Holmes, or Pouha out there? We don't have our best offensive player or defensive player either and the Jets take the Pats to overtime AT GILLETTE??? Whoever says they thought the Jets could do this before the game is either a rival fan posting on this site to piss us all off or just a crybaby fan who is always down on the team no matter what happens on the field.
This is the history of the Jets and why they're called the "same old Jets" by people who have watched them for years. IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF. There are so many ifs in this game alone that it's not even worth going into. The fact of the matter is that they DID give up the kickoff TD and trying to say that we had a moral victory because we outplayed them in some facets of the game does NOTHING to make me feel better. The game still counts as a loss, and despite the fact that we gave them a better fight than I expected, we went in and made a ton of mistakes. Save the moral victories for when we play a great game and just have the better team win. Outplaying the better team and then letting them steal it back after they tried to give it to us is not something to be proud of.
While I agree that Sporano sucks a monkey's ass, I can't say for one second that I agree that Sanchez was 'rushed' and doesn't deserve blame. He's dumb, period. At least as far as football IQ goes, not speaking about his actual intellect. YOu can go back and look at my posts- I've been a Sanchez supporter and have defended him quite a bit as a guy who got a bad rap because the team does nothing to improve his situation. But yesterday, I thnk I ran out of excuses. He's gotta learn to get rid of the ball and not take sacks in bad spots. He's gotta learn to protect the ball when he is about to be creamed, and he's gotta learn that when you give the other team the ball back, the game is over and you get rid of the ball no matter what - even if it's a grounding penalty. And there was NO excuse for that horrendous interception. Hill was oepn the entire play, and Sanchez seemed to wait for the defenders to get into the area, and then underthrew it by 5 yards. Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Even more reason not to design a tremendous play to go in his direction. I know it's been said a hundred thousand times on here already but lining up in a shotgun and letting them know a pass was coming was a ridiculous decision. You've got 3rd and 1 from the 2, why telegraph that a pass play is coming??? If you insist on passing it, then lineup like a run is coming and then play action. But to line up for a pass, throw a slant on the goal line and then say "ok, we'll take the field goal" is beyond retarded and par for the course with this team and its horrifying history of conservative play calling, bad moves and just terrible clock/game management.
Guys......LOSSES AREN'T BECAUSE OF PLAYS EARLY IN THE GAME UNLESS IT'S VINNY TESTAVERDE GOING OUT FOR THE YEAR WITH A TORN ACHILLES !!! I'll even give Stephen Hill a semi-pass....he made a mistake in the span of about 2 seconds. That's all he had to make that decision to concentrate on the catch: 2 seconds. Tony Sparano and Rex Ryan and Matt Cavanaugh had 10 minutes to think about what to do down at the Patriots end zone. When the Jets got to 3rd and 1, they had 30 seconds to think about it (and that doesn't include the option of calling a TO). We got the most idiotic call of all time -- a f****** slant -- from a 53% passer to a 5th string WR in training camp. That call F****** SUCKS if it is Joe Montana to Jerry Rice. You want to throw the ball conventionally, bad decision IMO but at least debatable. A pass there has about a 30-40% chance of winning. A slant in that position is a 10% or less chance.
The fumbled handoff/safety, Hill's drop, poor refereeing, and the undefended runback all, if reversed, would not have set the the theme of a Jet win as having jammed our own way down Belichick's throat with a continuation of Greene's grounding and pounding on 3rd and one. People would still be saying the Jets stole the game with the reverse of the other events, but had the Jets pounded the ball into the endzone on that drive with no camouflage (and I think they could have easily at least gotten a first down in two plays) with the Pats knowing what they were getting, the Jets would have people realizing they owned first place through domination, not theft. Almost! They have to come to Jetlife on thanksgiving....whoa be unto them!!!! And for this sunday we unleash all this frustration on Miami and sweep the series! J E T S Jets! Jets! Jets!
