Not really. O looks pretty decent so TDs will come Try harder. To start you might wanna stop listening so much to the media "experts". I wouldn't expect anything less from Toronto fans
The question to ask is; Who had a harder time last night, Cam Newton or Mark Sanchez? Keep in mind Cam Newton is supposed to be the wonder boy, the next Tom Brady and Peyton Manning all rolled into one. Funny, he didn't look that way to me with Ellis smashing him to the turf like a ragdoll... didn't look like that to me with his deer-in-the-headlights look on his face as the pocket collapsed around him. The defense is not a defense you're gonna want to face on Sunday, and this offense will hit some deep strikes and get their yards this year. I'm thinking 10-6 right now, but we'll see, maybe better than that.
This is exactly right. The touchdowns WILL come. And the fact that they haven't scored a touchdown yet is irrelevant. Teams aren't running their top RZ plays in the preseason. They moved the ball in the air well, the line held up, and despite the bad drop by Hill he looked good catching 5 for like 65 yards. And the defense is lights out. This team is an 8 win team, minimum.
whats crazy too is that rex is probably holding back significantly during the preseason. i can't even imagine what exotic blitzes and schemes he has planned for brady and co. once the real games begin. now that he has a legit 4-man rush it's going to be 10x deadlier than anything brady has seen in the last 3 years.
Not to beat a dead horse but the Jets are the first team in 35 years to not score a touchdown in three preseason games. I understand that moving in to the redzone is probably more important and that points don't technically matter. However, you would think in three games something has to give right? It did for every NFL team the last 35 years. I would be worried about your offense.
Newton was facing one of the best pass defenses in football. Sanchez was facing a group that finished in the bottom third of the league last season. One of the things that occurred to me as I was watching the game is just how important height is at this point in the NFL. Newton at 6'5" has a huge advantage over Sanchez at 6'2". People who argue that Sanchez doesn't have a quick release over the middle, like Brady at 6'4", have to realize that a lot of the time he doesn't have a particularly good view of the field right away. He has to move around a bit to make lanes to see and throw through and that takes away from the ability to 3-step drop BOOM over the middle on a slant. It also causes some of the deflections at the line that Sanchez is prone too. Obviously you can prosper in the NFL as a shorter QB these days. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are walking examples of high quality QB play at 6'2" and under. However neither of those guys is a prototypical pocket passer. Brees takes deep drops by most peoples standards and very quick ones at that and he often sets up at the edge of the tackle box. Rodgers runs around a lot. Sanchez isn't going to be able to take 3 step drops and throw the same balls that Brady and Eli do. He just doesn't have the same field of vision.
That double stunt with both ILB's and both DT's stunting was amazing. This defense is going to be hella fun to watch this season.
You said AUstin Howard can get the job done because of one preseason game? He was cut by two other pro football teams with pro football coaches and pro football personnel. So I'd say that statement is a tad presumptuous. The Jets starters have played 3 different teams' defenses this year in the preseason. Yesterday they moved the ball OK but didn't score, yet you say they can move the ball? They haven't proven anything at this point. This team is built on defense. So far the Jets have a brutal O, and in a few weeks we will get to see if they can play on 2 sides of the ball or just one. No matter how good the D is, they won't stay good if they're on the field 40 mins per game.
Well the Jets moved the ball really well the 3rd preseason game, which also happens to be the game where he had his receivers back and a competent RT. Coincidence? Again, scoring touchdowns is irrelevant in the preseason.
You are sort of beating a dead horse, because the number of TD's scored in preseason doesn't equate to regular season success. The 35-year stat means nothing really, it's just an empty stat because there's no proof that it translates to anything in the regular season. It's like saying the Patriots are the first team never to wear a smiley face sticker on their helmets in preseason in 35 years, how exactly does that translate to anything when the games are for real? I mean suppose the Jets had scored 1 or 2 or 3 TD's this preseason so far, would that make anyone feel better? Would that mean they're going to win more games this year? Of course not, nobody who knows football thinks that. The Jets have had great preseasons where they've put up huge TD numbers and followed it up with a bad season. All teams have done that. The preseason is evaluated differently. TD's scored does not translate to anything when the chips are down.
Landry looked like an absolute perfect fit for this defense. Howard looked good. I was pretty pleased last night
Yes it appears that Howard can do the job at RT. I didn't say he's going to the Probowl or anything, just that it appears he can do the job. This is a vast improvement over WFH in the postion, so that's a positive. Also the Jets moved the ball pretty well and took some shots downfield, that's a positive. The defense hurried and sacked Newton all night as well as Cro and Revis shutting down the deep ball, that's a positive. I didn't see anything last night that concerned me other than the injuries at TE. That could be a problem but we still have 2 weeks to get our guys ready before the season starts, and that's a positive.
There is one facet that you are completely missing the boat on here. CONFIDENCE You score TD's in the preseason to build CONFIDENCE! Confidence that what you are doing is working. Confidence in the offense you are running. There is no way you can rationalize away not scoring one lousy touchdown...period.
Really? Is that the purpose of scoring TDs? So it's not consistently moving the ball, nor smart plays... only TDs will get you confidence **writing down the pearls of wisdom** -- Got it!! And here I thought TDs were a product of offensive performance and that the whole point of preseason is to tune up that performance -- weed out sub-par players, polish plays, etc. Well, I guess our season is over... 0-16 with no TDs the whole way. :lol:
I can absolutely rationalize it. Everyone keeps using the "35-year-no-preseason-TD's thing" without realizing that the '77 Falcons went 7-7 that year. That was pretty good for the Falcons because they had a bad team back then. Here are the preceding years records for the Falcons prior to '77... 1974 Falcons went 3-11 1975 Falcons went 4-10 1976 Falcons went 4-10 1977 Falcons went 7-7 A bit different when you look at the stat in it's historical light isn't it? In other words, the Falcons had better preseasons in '74, '75, and ''76 but had a worse record in those years... Now do you see that this stupid preseason TD stat means absolutely nothing? Really, it means NOTHING....
I was impressed with Kenrrick Ellis, holy shit he is BIG. And quinton coples looks like he could make defensive rookie if he continues to play like this. Our defense is built to DESTROY anyone they line up against. Still hate Holmes, keep hill away from him. I hope Homles can make some plays this year bc we really need him, unfortunately. Greene does this every year. I'm glad he is getting a lot of carries in pre season bc it take him awhile to get the engine going. We need another running back to step up, Tebow? Hill you are a rookie, but hold on to the damn ball and if it hits your hands, catch it and get upfield. Nice job Howard, I saw a pocket. All in all we looked better, build from this, we can work with this.
I wouldn't worry too much about preseason statistics. Case in point: the 2008 Detroit Lions went 4-0 in the preseason, and then went 0-16 in the regular season.
Thank you sir, that specifically proves the point. It's amazing to me how sports talk people will hear one announcer say something and the rest of them repeat it without doing their homework or even thinking rationally about what they hear.
In preseason...yes. The whole purpose of preseason is to get in shape, ready and build confidence going into the season. TD's are a part of that. Do you have any idea how demoralizing it is to have a crap load of offensive production (i.e. "moving the ball") to come away with only 3 point on a consistent basis? To use your own statement...tuning up the performance ends up resulting in TD's. Not much of a tune up if you can't pop it in from time to time. Especially when your D gift wraps a few of them. Play the game much??
:lol: Every time a positive thread is posted, the negative nancies swarm in like vultures to derail it. Wins / Losses in the preseason means nothing. We have young new receivers. Hill and Holmes both had big drops, that killed drives. Hill will get better. Sanchez looked good. Coples, Ellis, Wilkerson all looked good. Maybin was really close to getting 2 sacks, one almost being a safety, most QBs aren't as quick as Newton. RT appears to be fixed. McKnight looked great on the returns. Powell looked decent. The defense struggles at stopping the run at times, though. They got better as time went on, but we got run over early on. Our run game still has a lot of cleaning up to do on the offensive side as well. Greene struggled but Powell looked good with the 2s. I'm surprised Mcknight isn't getting carries. Kerley didn't get any targets either, but him and Holmes aren't 100% yet, so that might be part of it.
