The Dunces Have Elected A Dunce

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  1. Satan

    Satan Well-Known Member

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    Like his tax return release promise all bs
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    no, no it doesn't. The director of the FBI serves at the pleasure of the president. End of story. Stop with the nonsense please.

    Trump was never under investigation despite what the lying liberal media was going on and on about for months.
     
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  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    He said Comey was lying under oath and that he would go under oath and directly dispute him. One of the two would be committing a felony at that point. My money is not on Trump being the truthful one. I also wonder if Comey didn't keep anything up his sleeve anticipating Trump would do exactly this. Like say, maybe a recording of his own? It would really be something to top "the coverup was bigger than the crime" ... in this case it would be like "the coverup was bigger than the fake narrative that Trump couldn't help but respond to".

    I think Comey really botched the way he handled the Clinton investigation, in more ways than one, but I still don't question his integrity. Obviously I could be wrong but he doesn't strike me as the type to go up there and lie about things.
     
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    Maybe you should do some research before starting your nonsense. Its already been stated that yes firing the guy investigating a crime you could be connected to is obstruction. There is a provision for it. Look it up and get back to me.

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  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You still don't get it. Trump isn't under investigation and never was.
     
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    It doesn't matter, he was connected to flynn, and that still constitutes the same since he allowed flynn in his administration, after already being warned about his activities.

    If you think there's a special counsel and trump isn't under investigation and he's hired an attorney, youre nuts. They're not going thru all this for flynn. Honestly i wouldnt be surprised if some Republicans want it secretly. Like i said, im sure many of them prefer pence and his low profile to help push their economic agenda

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  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Step back and consider what you're saying for a minute. Why hasn't someone charged Trump with this crime? Is it because of how much everyone in D.C. loves him? LMAO

    You're reaching - bigly.
     
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    They havent charged him because they're not going to rush it. Same reason you don't see prosecutors running out to charge wealthy all the time. They get all their ducks in a row before they make a move. You obviously don't work in law enforcement or the courts, which then wmit would be understandable that you don't get this concept. It's not because they can't or won't. They're getting as much evidence as possible before they make any decision.

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  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Your claim is that him firing Comey constitutes obstruction of Justice, technically. What additional facts are necessary if what you say is true? He fired Comey, fact.

    Do you even read what you write?
     
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    Listen, i dont care what you think. Im not going to keep explaining it to you. This isnt a legal guess. Legal experts all over the country have already identified the laws and provisions. Im sure you can look it up. What i said wasnt that confusing and if youre too dense to understand that trump is being investigated, i dont know what to tell you.

    Not to mention the fact that ny is investigating the trump foundation.

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    You're a hoot man. Just because you wish something to be true, doesn't make it so. It may be time for a CNN intervention.

    Keep on dreamin the dream big guy. One day you'll wake up and be as disappointed as you were on the night of November 8th.
     
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    Ok buddy, whatever i dont really care anymore. As usual you lack any critical thought, and youre simply not worth it. Do a little leg work next time. You obviously dont understand that gravity of whats going on there.

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  13. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You made an incorrect claim, contradicted your own claim and now are accusing me of lacking critical thought. Great stuff my man. Keep it coming.
     
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    No you just lack critical thinking skills. Not once did i ever contradict myself. You assume stupidly that just because he committed obstruction, that they would race to charge him. No they wont. He committed obstruction. Legal acts can still constitute obstruction as upheld by the higher courts. Just like any good prosecutor, they are gonna gather as much evidence as possible before making a move. I dont understand what's so hard about this.

    This idea got have that hes not being investigated is just stupid. Clearly he is. You don't bring in special counsel for someone like flynn. My last post to you on this topic. Next time do a simple google search.

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    The way a special prosecutor works is by flipping smaller fish on the way to his intended target. That's what's happening right now. I doubt Mueller is focused on Trump yet. He's focused on the people he believes he can prove broke the law and he will use them to implicate people closer to Trump and then he will use the people close to Trump to implicate Trump.

    I suspect he is focused on Flynn like a laser right now and probably Kushner as a mid-range target. He's probably looking hard at Manafort and Page and a few other people but not focused on them yet.

    He's lining up his path and he's going to be careful not to overshoot and climb the ladder too quickly. I believe the ongoing investigation will be an issue in the 2018 and 2020 election cycles, assuming nothing emerges that just blows Trump or the case out of the water. The former case would be a smoking gun directly tied to Trump, the latter would be Trump firing Mueller - which would likely cause an insurrection among congressional Republicans and result in an early impeachment movement.

    I see no way for this to go away quietly at this point. The firing of Comey and the appointment of Mueller were the last hinges on which a quiet resolution hinged. Now we're in for a multi-year process, much like Whitewater which went for 7 years...
     
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    exactly.. we've only just begun here. It's gonna drag on for a long time unless Trump quits and sues like he's done with pretty much every venture he's lead. I thought it was noteworthy he brought in his personal elitist attorney to respond to Comey's testimony instead of white house staff. That's a sign of things to come, things get hard and Trump brings in his attorneys and quits
     
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    I don't think he'll quit.

    He has many more protections available as President than he does as a private citizen. If he quits he can't do anything about the special prosecutor, who is looking at the issue of Russia interfering in our election with the help of insiders in his campaign.
     
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    What we're seeing is the establishment DC scumbags who get rich off the backs of taxpayers and special interests doing everything in their power to delegitimize Trump in order to prevent him from accomplishing his agenda. That's not to say Trump isn't the cause of many of his own headaches, obviously he is, but that pales in comparison to the shit being thrown around. As it stands today, what we know is that Trump was never the target of any investigation relating to Russian collusion as the MSM and DC scumbags have been screaming 24x7 since the election. Comey testified to that. It is all a conspiracy theory that has been legitimized in the mainstream by the same people looking to delegitimize the president. The funniest part about that is some of the same people jerking off over this conspiracy theory are the first to call you a cooky loon conspiracy theorist. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

    The investigation is into Russian interference in our election. Russia has been doing this for a long time mind you. They did step up the game this election cycle, but let's not pretend like this is something new.

    Now, that's not to say some thing couldn't come up at a later time that does in fact show Trump colluded with Russia. That could happen and it would obviously change everything. I would be absolutely shocked if that actually happened.

    I voted for Trump, but he was probably my second least favorite republican candidate. Basically it was a not Clinton vote. The only thing that would suck about him getting into actual legal trouble and being impeached is that it would be a "win" for all the left wing raving lunatics who were 110% sure Clinton was the next president and have been throwing a temper tantrum ever since. It's not like if Trump goes Hillary steps in. You get Pence.
     
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    He could get impeached over the emoluments clause if it's proven that Putin shunted money to any of his businesses and other interests in Russia.

    Not releasing the tax returns has opened him up to a "not upholding the Constitution" impeachment (under high crimes and misdemeanors) if it's proven that he did indeed or is now profiting from businesses in Russia due to decisions made by Putin or anybody else in the Russian government.

    The emoluments clause is defined specifically to prevent an American President from being swayed by financial interests overseas and to prevent tacit bribery by foreign officials. My guess is that Trump is almost defenseless against this angle of attack since he didn't release his tax returns and he clearly has interests in Russia proper as well as elsewhere in the world.
     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    He could get impeached for murdering Seth Rich.
     
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