The Dolphins game is not a gimmie part II

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  1. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    A "great chance" does not guarantee victory, however it implies that we have a better than 75% chance to win.

    If you thought the game was going to be close or it was a toss up then a "great chance" would be misleading language at best.
     
  2. AarontheJet

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    Don't watch the game then, if you're so positive we're going to lose.
     
  3. nyjunc

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    would it make you guys feel better if I said good chance?
     
  4. Barcs

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    The Dolphins have been an above average team so far this year. The Texans are one of the best. With that said we can still beat them, based on the fact THAT WE ALREADY DID on the road. This time we'll have home field advantage. I see what you're trying to do here. You must be phins troll or a darksider because you are searching hard 2 weeks before the game to belittle people that think we'll win it. Who the hell cares if people think we'll win a game. You act like optimism is a bad thing. We are supposed to be fans of the Jets on this site.

    By the way, your agenda is clear based on the cherry picking of stats, "lost 3 of the last 4". People use stats like that when they are trying to promote an agenda. Why ignore the first game of the season? We lost 3 of the last 5. Get it right. Leaving out that one game is hack journalist style.

    Nobody's saying it's a give me. It's a game we should win, however. I warned people before the last phins game that it will not be lopsided or a blowout when a lot thought it would be. We edged that game on the road, we should be able to edge this one.
     
  5. Lon Chaney

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    Who are Miami is playing that didn't in the first game? Are talking about Bush?

    And the fact that this game is going to be played in NY increases the odds of a Jets win.
     
  6. MoWilkShakes

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    We will have home field advantage, which surprisingly is very helpful if the Jets show some resolve. I was at the game monday night and we caused a false start and forced a few time outs.
     
  7. Jon_Snow

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    Op: this forum is full of green glasses wearing homers. I optimistically predicted 8-8 @ the start. Considering the injuries and how we're playing I'd revise it down 3 games to 5-11. That would mean we have about 3 more wins left in us. Every game going forward will not be a gimmie. We and the dophins are going in opposite directions. Their rookie QB is their greatest weakness. While he is playing good as of recent they always vulnerable to mistakes that lose games.
     
  8. MoWilkShakes

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    Making an argument out of who is a "SOJF/darksider" or "homers/sunshiners" is fucking pointless. That's like yelling at a person for predicting the future wrong. Anything can happen, unless you just started watching football you should know this.
     
  9. jets4lyfah

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    i can't wait till we trash Miami and all the tannehill jock riders go quietly into the night
     
  10. fozzi58

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    Right - because I want to always root for my team to be shitty and lose and not have any optimism on the season. Just like how Giant fans were doing in 2007 when the whole fanbase said Manning sucks and the team is going nowhere.

    I'm not on this board and screaming at my TV when the Jets play because I am playing the role of Johnny in Major League II (Randy Quaid). If cheering on my team, and having optimism instead of looking for doom and gloom all the time makes me a green glass wearing homer, then so be it.
     
  11. JetsNation06

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    And on the opposite end of the spectrum if there are players that are playing like shit then I'm not going to just keep rooting for them blindly because they are members of this team. If they are playing like shit and hurting this team then I am damned sure to make my voice be heard and voice my frustration because at the end of the day, I want players on this team who give us the best chance to win. This is all about the Jets winning games and sometimes that means players need to be replaced.
     
  12. jlee499

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    I couldn't agree more! I am sometimes amazed at the threads that go up and the arguments (discussions?) that take place. It seems that more times then not 'we' are more interested in how individual players are perceived (and thus, 'our' prediction of there success) then if the JETS win or not.

    :jets:
     
  13. Footballgod214

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    Wikipedia defines 'a gimme game' as the upcoming Jet-Dolphin game.

    I happen to agree. Looking at both teams where they are right now, Jets will win this game going away. 'a gimme game' if there ever was one.
     
  14. MurrellMartin

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    The only reasons the Jets beat Miami Week 3.

    1A. Santonio Holmes
    1B. Dan Carptenter
    1C. Joe Philbin

    Without Holmes, what would the Jets have done Week 3? Ask yourselves that.

    Also, I highly doubt Reggie Bush is going down again.

    Miami will beat us unless Ryan Tannehill throws two or more pick 6's.
     
  15. BeastBeach

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    I'm guessing you probably thought the first game was a gimme too.

    So after nearly losing in Miami and winning by 3 in OT and having several more injuries, this matchup has somehow transformed into a gimme based upon what exactly? Only losing to Houston by 6 at home?

    If we are in the fiction business then Miami is much closer to being a 4-1 team right now than the Jets are to having any game being a "gimme"
     
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  16. Jon_Snow

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    It's one thing to be optimistic but it another to be so out of touch with reality as to not make sense. Look when I'm watching a game there is always a little voice in me no matter what the score that says we can maybe turn things around and win the game.

    I like to think I can evaluate a team pretty well based on their prior season, off season drafts, signings, preseason and regular season performance. I don't just look at their win loss record but how they actually played in the game. I don't let the fact I'm a Jets fan cloud my judgment. If I think they're deserving of praise or criticism I give it and that doesn't make me any less of a fan.

    IMHOP people who say ridiculous things like we are not only going to beat the 49ers we a going to kill them, don't have a lot of creditability. I'm not holding myself or others to an unrealistic standard of predicting the future, just back up your opinions with a compelling argument and you just might win me over. It's like the Tebow fans when you actually try to engage them in a meaningful debate fall back on the intangibles. Which is there right but I'm not going to take them seriously or waste my time responding. As Jim Rome says "Have a take, don't suck"
     
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    Those aren't the only reasons. We had the poor execution in the RZ that led to 0 points. We had the Fasano catch that wasn't a catch that led to 4 points. We had the Powell drop that lost 3 points I believe. And we didn't have Keller or Hill that game. But nobody mentions any of this because they only pick and choose the "what ifs" they want to. It goes both ways.

    It's ridiculous that people think we barely squeezed out an OT win in Miami means the game will play out the same next time except Miami will execute better and we won't. It as ridiculous to say we are definitely going to lose based on last game as it is we are going to definitely win. As of right now, we should be slightly favored in part because its a home game. There are 2 games before them, so we will see if that remains true.
     
  18. Jon_Snow

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    The game was a while ago so I can't remember the details. What I do remember, the Dolphins were the better team and out played us for most of the game. Carpenter should have made that kick, end of story. You could argue we deserved to win because we didn't give up and made the few key plays to win the game. But saying that still doesn't mean the better team won. Before Bush got hurt he was killing us and we didn't have an answer. Their defense was for real and shut us down cold. Our defense let them run all over us and march down the field with little to no resistance to tie the game. While the 2nd game is winnable I wouldn't go so far as to favor us. The stats support that opinion. They also beat the Bengals this week which is a good team. We haven't beat a good team. Usually when you have equal teams in a division they will split. Besides all that we are now missing our two best players on offense and defense.
     
  19. WarriorRB28

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    Blowout or close game who cares as long as it's a W.:)
     
  20. displacedfan

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    Ha the Dolphins weren't the better team if they missed two field goals and let us walk down the field in OT and the end of the 4th. Both teams sucked that day. That's what happened. Neither one played to their best or even great ability. Both played terrible games and we won ugly. Yes, that win there is nothing to build off of except their perseverance, but a win is a win. And its ridiculous to think this game will mimic that one. Since when has a Dolphins-Jets made sense and even played two similar games in one season?
     

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