The difference between Dungy and

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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    A few months? Last I heard was that Favre was going to make a decision this month.

    Well, anyway, Dungy has talked about retiring for several years now. Dungy and Favre are similar in this respect.

    Also, there is a big difference between a head coach and a player. Just look at Chad Pennington. He could join a new team weeks before a season starts and finish 2nd in the MVP voting four months later. Could a head coach take over a new team in August and be successful? Extremely unlikely.

    Favre has some time to make a decision. I don't think the coaching search plays into it very much at all. Don't let the media mess with you like that.


    Also, great post by GreenMachine.

    Favre as Jet > Namath as Ram







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  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Tannenbaum told Favre to get away and not even think about football for 3-4 weeks. I guess he's an asshole for following the directions of the GM of the team he's employed by.

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  3. Long Time Jet Fan

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    He didn't jerk anyone around for years. Huge difference. And when he quit he quit. Oh, and I don't idolize anyone.
     
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    Long Time Jet Fan New Member

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    Hey, it's all any fan can do.
     
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    Actually Favre said Tannenbaum will call him in a month and maybe he'll know then. Dungy has never let the drama go on and on. Dungy could still be a jerk like Favre and lead the Colts on. Namath didn't threaten to retire five times and never led his teams on. You post makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.
     
  6. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    The problem is that you didn't understand it.

    You can't compare a coach to a QB.

    Jim Caldwell has stuff to do with his team darn near everyday of the year now. Favre, on other hand, does not have to concern himself with setting up offseason programs, getting ready for the scouting combine, helping to make personnel decisions, etc.

    It's not a hard issue to understand.

    Don't make me go all Wham "Wake Me Up" on you.
     
  7. Long Time Jet Fan

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    You're right. Favre's the man. Let him take all year. He's a legend. Happy now? After all Ratliff will be the starter anyway.
     
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    polar bears are now a TGG meme.
     
  9. JetsUK

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    How long have you been waiting to use that pic for? :)
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Favre was told specifically by Mike Tannenbaum to take 4 weeks off and not even think about football.
     
  11. Long Time Jet Fan

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    Yes, another brilliant move by Jets management.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    On that I can't disagree. Tannenbaum should have been canned the moment Mangini was.
     
  13. xxedge72x

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    How can anyone expect Favre to not do what he's doing? He did it with Green Bay, and will likely do it until he actually does hang it up for real. We traded for him, we get to deal with it.
     
  14. Long Time Jet Fan

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    And for the few on this board who hated the Favre trade it becomes even more painful.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Personally I don't think the Favre trade would've been bad had we utilized a creative and aggressive offense that made better use of the running game, the play action pass, and Favre's skillset...

    But that's just me. I blame 90% of this season on the coaches and the philosophy.
     
  16. Long Time Jet Fan

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    Favre is done. No coaching would have made him great this year. The fact that the Packers were willing to let a legend go should have told the Jets something. And what exactly is Favre's skill set? Throwing the ball up for grabs into triple coverage? The trade was a mistake. The team needs to admit it and move on.
     
  17. winstonbiggs

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    Favre has more trips to the SB than Dungy?
     
  18. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    You didn't understand my posts and now to make matters worse you think I am a huge Favre fan.

    Let the record show, I want Favre to retire, but I'm fine with him having the rest of the winter to make a decision. Because there are no worthwhile quarterbacks to be had via free agency, I don't think Favre truly needs to make a decision till maybe a couple weeks before the 74th Annual NFL Draft.

    Here's what I don't understand about this thread- I thought you were better than this.

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    Head coaches work year-round for the most part. Sure, they can take a couple vacations in the offseason, but they don't have anywhere near the amount of free time as players.

    It is not as if Tony Dungy was headed to a four-month vacation if he stayed on board as Colts head coach. He still had a lot of things to do the rest of the winter, such as preparing for the combine, assessing the personnel on the Colts roster and talking to Bill Polian about players and what not, all sorts of wonderful shit.

    Head coaches cannot do what Favre did in 2007 with the Packers because it is simply not possible. Players can go get lost for a few months after their season ends, whereas coaches cannot exactly do the same.

    Do you understand what I mean?

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    It's cuckoo to make the comparison you made in this thread. Clearly you have an agenda and it really got out of hand with this thread. (Prior to this thread, I thought you were doing okay with the Favre bashing.)
     
  19. Long Time Jet Fan

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    My whole point to this thread is that it doesn't take ages to make a decision. Either you want to coach or don't. Either you want to play or you don't. Very few players ever go through the routine Favre does and he's done it four or five times. If he wasn't a selfish guy he could have decided by now, but he's going to take his time and figure out how to play it best to his advantage. He doesn't want to come back to the Jets. He probably wants to go to another team and he's just taking this time to figure out how best to accomplish that. Dungey on the other hand made up his mind quickly, because that's the type of person he is.
     
  20. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I understand what you wrote here, but you are still missing my point. I probably am not writing well enough, so forgive me.

    Let's forget about Favre and Dungy for a moment and use Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin as examples. Manning probably does not have to do much for the next couple weeks. I understand he cleaned out his locker yesterday. I do not know if he made the Pro Bowl because I don't pay attention to that farce. Let's assume he made it. In that case, the Monday or Tuesday after the Super Bowl he'd likely fly out to Hawai'i to practice for the Pro Bowl and participate in other league activities out there.

    Coughlin, on the other hand, has a lot of work on the table. You can bet that he's meeting with his staff and Jerry Reese this week to discuss the season that has just ended and to assess the personnel.

    A head coach wouldn't and couldn't do what Favre did in 2008 because it wouldn't make sense. It's too ridiculous. Just think about it.

    Aside from a health issue suddenly popping up, coaches don't make decisions in the summer as far as retirement is concerned. Dungy made his decision the other day because he doesn't want to do all the offseason work. Dungy's 2009 season would have effectively started this week.

    A coach's offseason is vastly different than a player's offseason. To compare Dungy to Favre in the way you have here in this thread is downright silly.
     
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