The Darrelle Revis No Longer Holding Out Thread

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  1. rmagedon

    rmagedon Active Member

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    Hope this helps answer all your questions.
     
  2. Jets n Boys

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    Where do you get that Idea from? Jets have an offer on the table. And I think so far no one has offered a $120mil contract in the NFL, besides the Vick contract.

    1. They said the wanted to negotiate a deal, not renegotiate. Huge difference. Renegotiation implies a new contract. Negotiating implies an extension, something the Jets want to do.

    2. Not only the Jets, several media outlets said that. Whats the point?

    3. That's when Revis wasn't budging. That how it should be anyways. Revis held out of camp three years ago to get that contract and he's unhappy about it now. Who's hypocritical now?

    4. There's always media war in contract negotiations. The fact that they are still trying tells you they are truly interested.
     
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    I could see something similar here. Except with the Jets it will be the first preseason bomb caught over alCROtraz or wilson. Rex will be pissed as hell (as usual) and freak on the coverage. Then he will turn and start yelling to get tanny on the headset. Confused he takes the headphones and puts them on and blows an eardrum as Rex yells at him to sign Revis
     
  4. Jets n Boys

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    I know what you are saying, but even if the Jets didn't, it still would have been the same and Jets would not have disagreed with it either.
     
  5. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    a $120 million dollar contract is only as good as the guaranteed money.

    They can offer him a 1,000,000,000,000 contract with 1 million guranteed and it's only going to be looked at like a 1 million dollar contract.
     
  6. ManlyGenius

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    I'm sure their plan is something like that. They've got to know they're not going to get a 10/160 million contract with large amounts guaranteed. They're just asking for the moon, the sun, and the stars, they know the moon is about right, but if they end up with the moon and the sun they've done their jobs.

    I negotiate deals all the time and you run up against this kind of posturing crap from time to time. (The Jets' apparent refusal to discuss signing bonus or the guaranteed amount of a deal until there's agreement on the total amount is similarly idiotic as well in the context of this deal--timing of payment and guaranties are so crucial to these transactions that they've got to know they're not making real offers if they're just saying "do you accept 10/120?".) The posturing is an annoying waste of time; eventually both sides usually do crack and begin to talk about realistic figures, but in the meanwhile you just have to be clear about your positions and not bargain against yourself.
     
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    Well that doesn't mean Jets won't offer any guarantees at all. The offer is for the total compensation and apparently, they'd talk guaranteed money once total compensation is agreed upon. We know for a fact that Revis will be guaranteed $20 mil for the 2011 and 2012 season if no new contract is signed. My guess is, the guarantees would be around $60 mils.
     
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    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    $60 million??

    I'd be shocked if it were more than $40 million guaranteed.
     
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    How do the Jets guarantee more than $.3M?
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean?
     
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    They guarantee it solely against injury, and not against skill.
     
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    The reallocation rule, how do they get around the reallocation rule?
     
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    Ok, I don't know if it's been posted here yet but this is the most level headed read that I have found on the internet. Enjoy! :)
    http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/sto...oes-no-good-for-revis-or-jets-so-why-the-fuss
     
  14. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    If they do that, it would only be for this season correct?

    After the 2010 season, and a new CBA in place(hopefully), that becomes regular guaranteed money right?


    That's what I took from Brick's deal anyway, he took out a injury insurance policy and chose the skill guaranteed money.
     
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    That's the remaining cap space.
     
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  18. Jets n Boys

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    Its going to be a 10 year contract. Suh got $40 mils guaranteed over 5 years (67% of his total compensation), without playing a snap. Bradford got $50 mils over 6 years.

    $60 mils over 10 years would not be out of the question for someone who has already established himself.
     
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