Well Pouha getting cut would be a curve ball for me. But since I just wrote a piece about who are the best 11 and who will play and I could only say 6 or 7 are certain... I guess I really don't know.
I think Pouha plays next year unless we completleey abandon the 3-4. It would be retarded for us to have him giving him the contract we did then keep him for only 1 year. I think he plays a second year then we cut him, unless of course he's hot garbage this year.
It wouldn't be retarded at all. The contract was structured to be cut-friendly. The only season it is hard to cut Pouha is this one. To keep him next year the Jets would likely want to restructure to lower the cap hit next season. That would make him almost an auto-cut the year after. Basically the Jets gave Pouha a nice 1-year $4.4 million deal ($900M salary + $3.5M bonus) at a cap cost of $2.167 million this year. That was a reward for his best season last year. Next year the salary is $4.9M which becomes fully guaranteed on the first day of the league season (I think) if he is on the roster at that point. His cap figure for the year jumps $4M to $6.167 million. The following year he has a $4.5M roster bonus that definitely is not getting paid. He'd have a $6.67M cap figure that year. It's a 1-year deal at cap friendly terms for the Jets that also gives Pouha a nice payday for the years he's spent with the team. That's how you have to read it.
I think that what we do with Pouha greatly depends on Ellis. If Ellis does not emerge, we'll probably keep Pouha for another year. Pouha's pretty much been steadily improving every year. If he does it again, he stays. It's not like Pouha can't play 4-3.
True, but what Rex is shooting for is 11 players that can stay on the field for all 3 downs no matter what down, distance, or offensive formation they're facing. What hurt us last year were the sub packages cluing the Offense into what was coming. Plus not being able to get the sub packages in during the no huddle offenses.
I just like the fact that the jets arent throwing the young players into the fire (for the most part) keeping, players like Scott and pace, Thomas and puoha to make the transition easier for the younger players shows me that tanny and co have learned from their mistakes. I think we have some solid depth this year because of it.
That doesnt show anything... The Jets basically couldnt cut Scott and Pace. The two of them have so much guarenteed money tied up, that cutting them would be retarded. Thomas is back for a minimum contract because we dont have shit at olb, and Pouha is back because he was one of the best 3-4 NT in all of football last year. Im not saying that they have or haven't learned anything, but that all of those moves were no bra iners that every single GM in football would of done. (With the exception of maybe Thomas, which was just a depth move) And I think youre also forgetting that we tried to trade Scott but nobody would take them. So to save face (both scott and our FO) they both just pretended that he wanted to be here all along
Calling Pouha a 1 dimensional player isn't fair. Sure he's not a great pass rusher...but how many big nose tackles are?? You don't pay guys like Pouha to get after the QB. You pay them b/c there aren't many guys 330 and above who can consistently defend 2 gaps of the running lanes while staying healthy for 16 games. Jets used to have a pass rushing type of NT...he wasn't perfect for a 2 gap scheme & was only average against the run..but he could collapse a seam, bull rush, disrupt the pocket & played all 3 downs .Dewayne Robertson. For how long did Jet fans/media bitch & moan for the Jets to replace him w/ a true clogger who could swallow up the run? Pouha steps up & becomes that guy & now all of a sudden he's expendable b/c he's not a 3 down player? Not even a Rex Ryan defense is gonna survive with only 3-4 guys in the DL rotation in today's NFL.Doesn't matter how good they are...or if they can play all 3 downs or not. You need to have 5-6 players in the rotation who fill different needs.That's how you keep guys fresh.Pouha makes a good salary for himself..but his skill set demands that. How many nose tackles defend the run as well as he does in both a 3-4 & a 4-3? Of those..how many are also plus pass rushers?
How often do you expect us to have 3 or 4 down linemen AND 3 or 4 linebackers on the field at once? Have you guys been watching NFL football for the last 2 years? I expect our 4th CB or 3rd Safety to get about 10x more snaps than our fourth linebacker. It's ridiculous for anybody to say that a given defensive player should be played on 1st/2nd down, and some other player on 3rd down. Do you really expect the Packers, Pats, Giants, or even Steelers to be running it on 1st/2nd down? These days, most teams these days only call run plays when the Dime D is out. Our BASE DEFENSE is the Nickle or the Dime, not the 4-3 or the 3-4. Feel free to argue about whether we should have a 3- or 4-man front, though.
I don't see any reason why we'd want to lose Pouha. Given how old he was when he got to the NFL, he has a lot less wear and tear than other players his age. And, historically, many interior lineman have maintained a high level of play well into their thirties. If he stays healthy, he should stay a Jet for the foreseeable future.
Don't confuse career year at 31 with been an excellent player for a decade and manages to keep it together into the mid 30's. They're not the same thing. Ted Washington and Keith Traylor were really good two-way players for most of their careers who slowed down and became two down guys at the end. Pouha had a really good year last year and he has been a good two down player for the Jets for several years now but he was on the bench when Kris Jenkins was in town, not playing alongside him. He's not really likely to maintain even the level of play that he showed for two downs last year for long. That's just not how talent works in an environment like the NFL. If he goes on to have a better second half of career than the first he'll be very unusual. And that's not saying he didn't have a career year last year, just that he was an issue at times even when he was having that year.
I dont agree at all Look at the Saints 660 passes to 432 runs Pats 612 passes to 438 runs Packers 552 passes to 395 runs And those are the teams with the 3 best QBs in the league obviously the nfl is more of a passing league more now than ever before, but teams still run the ball. If you dont run the ball enough teams can focus entirely on playing pass defense and rushing the passer. It keeps your defense on the field, and helps get your offense into a rhythm. And obviously teams are far more likely to throw the ball on 3rd and long than they are on 1st or 2nd down. So yeah it makes alot more sense to put Pouha and Scott on the field on first and 10 than it does on 3rd and 12
Those teams run the ball out of passing formations, against sub-package defenses. But your point still stands, even if you're in a sub-package on 1st and 10, you still want Pouha out there.
Rex will mix it up every single snap its gonna be crazy Revis, Cromartie and likely Landry will be the only ones to never come out D-Line- Pouha/DeVito/Wilkerson/Ellis/Coples LB's- Harris/Scott/Pace/Thomas/Maybin/Davis/Sapp/Mauga DB's- Revis/Cromartie/Wilson/Landry/Bell/Smith/Lankster/Steed
