Terror attack in Las Vegas and now Cali

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  1. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I was just reading something about a theory about the possibility of him having an accomplice, or more that knew all along they would kill him and take off. Leaving him as the supposed lone wolf. There was a witness in the hotel behind mandalay that said she was in the bar and saw some o e run through in a security jacket. Also, there was a report that the police shot someone in the leg who was wearing a security jacket. We'll never know , but interesting .
     
  2. JulesWinfield89

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    You are a complete idiot. I never said I didn't "want" to help them. The fact that they're part of the USA is irrelevant because if it were Haiti or the Dominican Republic the government would be sending aid

    I never said we shouldn't send help. Any time there's a natural disaster anywhere in the world we do help and still we're dragged through the mud across the globe. Your gripe was that trump pointed out that it has a cost and it does.
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    There's no defending his poor choice of words in Puerto Rico. He tried to make light of the sixteen deaths by comparing it to Katrina.

    One news anchor correctly put it in that he's the Chief Consoler at times like this. Sorry, but it's the Presidents job to be fucking sensitive and sympathetic when people he is in charge of overseeing pass away.

    Not take the Larry David comedic approach of 'welllll it could've been worse and wasn't that bad.'

    As far as the shooting goes, I'm not sure if he definitively could've done it all on his own.

    But I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that this dude routinely drove out into the dessert to shoot all of his guns and become accustomed to using them. In the grand scheme of things, he wasn't that far away and the people were all herded together and completely unaware of what was happening for the first couple minutes.

    I tend to think there definitely could've been another shooting. I wonder if any entry and exit wounds in the victims indicate that the bullets could've came from elsewhere.

    Then again, he was basically just exhausting his magazines and then moving onto his next weapon, right?

    As far as the girlfriend goes, she's going to say anything she can to keep herself innocent. One would think she had to have been aware that something was going on.

    Where were all of the guns found in the residence? He owned multiple properties, so were all of the guns recovered at the same property that she stayed at with him?

    So many questions. It's times like these that I wish they took this gigantic piece of shit alive. So they could thoroughly figure out why. And then prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law.

    He wouldn't be sentenced to death quickly though. As far as I know the one brother from the Boston bombing is still alive, yes?
     
  4. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem with conservatives. They insult anyone they disagree with. Moron.
     
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    Yes Tsarnaev's currently on death row. The guy who found him in the boat died a few days ago at age 70.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yeah because they didn't decide to jeopardize the conviction by trying him as an international criminal/terrorist.

    I'm okay I guess with him rotting in prison. But one would think the victims and survivors of that horrific event want him dead sooner than later.
     
  7. Poeman

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    I would not let what he says bother you. He sounds like a conspiracy theorist with a peanut for a brain.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What do you think? I think it's possible he did it himself.

    Hotels and especially hotel/casinos are littered with cameras. Surely that footage is being dissected. Would the accomplice have been on the ground or in the hotel with him? Possibly on a different floor?

    Found this rather interesting as per NBC.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...ock-kept-firing-10-minutes-police-n807831/amp

    Perhaps one of the psychos running around the concert claiming all those folks were going to die? Wasn't it a woman doing so?
     
  9. Petrozza

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    He was emptying 100-round magazines with no stoppages supposedly using rifles with a bump stock. The guy I watched said that he usually has to stop a couple of times when emptying a 100-rounder with a bump stock rifle. It's quite difficult to smoothly unload 100 rounds with a bump stock. Here's a different guy shooting 100 rounds with a similar device.

     
  10. Br4d

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    There's so much misinformation at this point that it is hard to figure out what's real and what's not. Almost as if somebody was trying to capitalize on the incident to sow as much confusion and discord as possible.

    The one thing I read that if confirmed would lead me to believe he was the only shooter is the report that he fired through the locked door of his room at hotel security, wounded one of them, and then was dead when they broke down the door and got into the room.

    As to whether there were additional shooters elsewhere, that's pure speculation at this point. If it's true they'll figure it out eventually as they match trajectories on the wounds on the victims.

    If a bunch of people had wounds that did not match the 32nd floor or being flat on the ground they'll be able to piece that together. Some people will have been hit as they were going to ground but if somebody was shooting from the Xth floor, well X will show up in enough victims to be statistically significant.

    This is not a few bullets fired at a moving car. The large number of rounds expended will have produced clear patterns of the trajectories that would have been in play at the shooting.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    That video to me indicates how very easily one could unload their clips into a crowd without very good accuracy and easily kill many people by themselves.

    Is it known for certain how many weapons he used?
     
  12. Petrozza

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    They are only saying how many he had in the room... 23 I think.

    Investigators Looking for Mystery Woman Seen With Vegas Shooter Is this supposedly the same woman who was saying "you're all going to die" 45 minutes before the shooting started?

    Another thing that kinda baffles me is why it only lasted around 10 minutes. Supposedly he wanted to kill as many as possible, then why did he stop? SWAT got there about an hour after he stopped shooting. The pictures from his room clearly show a stack of full magazines, so he could have kept on shooting for quite some time.
     
  13. The Waterboy

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    The time to worry about the national debt is over the last 40 plus years and 7-8 Presidents, not when millions of people literally have their lives in the balance. In the situation I mentioned, the thing to do is not say a damn word if you aren't smart enough to say something intelligent. Maybe something you should take to heart.
     
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    Maybe just every disaster that effects citizens of the U.S.
     
  16. typeOnegative13NY

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    There's some good videos with clear muzzle fire coming from the 4th. Some have tried to brush it off as reflection, but there's nothing coming from the 32nd to reflect. Also , it couldn't reflect at that angle. Having a real tough time digesting the official story. He certainly could have done it, but in addition to well planning this, he would also have to have been working just as hard to not let anyone who knows him sense anything. Most often people with money problems just off themselves.
     
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    video is long,but he goes through the different floor footage
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Yeah I just posted that boss ;)

    But I don't think they've determined if there is a connection or not to the woman saying everyone's going to die. I think they're just trying to figure out who the woman was that she was with.

    The timeline in the NBC article seems to say that's the police arrived to his room or near his room 7 minutes after the shooting began. I don't think they were able to identify the room though?

    I'm sure the security guard has been interviewed.

    This is the first official timeline too I believe.
     
  19. The Waterboy

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    Well the video I posted earlier seems like it is the first time the person shot a bump fire and she didn't seem to have much problem. I would think just a little practice and it wouldn't be that hard to get pretty good at it. Not sure what the Instagram guy deems "as well as the shooter", speed?, accuracy?.
    Bump fire
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

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    It doesn't sound like he had a large network of people connected to him. His brother had said that they did not see each other often, I believe? I also believe his neighbors described him as reclusive.

    It's not that hard to hide things from people if your contact with people is that limited.

    One second I'm going to check out the video you posted. Thanks for the link!
     

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