I think we leave the draft with 2 high impact players regardless of how many picks we tade Melvin Ingram and Alshon Jeffrey maybe
Tanny, put up an A+ this draft....it's needed My dream draft. I know it never happens, but if I woke up the next morning and first 3 picks looked like this, I would be quite satisfied. 1. Quinton Couples OLB (second choice Courtney Upshaw) 2. Bobby Massie OT (second choice Trumaine Johnson S) 3. Ashton Jeffrey WR Then we address Safety or RB in the 5th round, and a pure blocking TE in the 6th. I would also pick V.Burfort MLB out of Arizona very late if he's still there. They are saying he may not get picked at all. A year ago he was a top 10 talent pick. He's a head case, undisciplined. But talent is talent and a big fast ILB prospect with a 6th or 7th round pick sounds fine by me. Well worth the gamble given the amount of late picks we have. We might be the exact team to take that gamble sine we have 6 picks in the last 2 rounds. No one else may want to throw out an entire round on him. We have plenty of chances and can take the gamble.
Sitting at 16 it would be utterly retarded to gamble and trade up for whomever Rex or Tanny have a hardon for. Like seriously, its crazy how many options they'll have at 16 so why the fuck not just take best player available as long as it isn't a corner? Depth is needed at virtually every position we have aside from corner and qb obviously. They could easily convert the best available offensive lineman to right tackle if that wasn't his college position and even take someone like Trent Richardson if he somehow falls to 16. You literally can't go wrong here if you take BPA.
Rather than trade up.... I would look to trade down a couple of spots. If you can add a 2nd or 3rd rd pick and still get one of the OLB prospects you like. There has to be a partner to trade with but an ideal scenario is 4 picks in the first 3 rounds where you address OLB, WR, OT, S with them. Then it's depth, depth, depth from there.
The article seems to imply that the organization is run by the fans. That's odd. I didn't ask for Tebow.
You know...you may be on to something here...not sure WHY I hadn't thought of it but Tebow is GREAT trade fodder for one of the QB needy teams. I would even consider trading him to Miami...maybe. But, definitely Jacksonville! Tebow and our 1st to move up and grab whomever we want. They get their QB and move down to 16 and we get their spot. Interesting. I wonder if it would be enough or if they'd want more picks....hmmmmmmm
We established Tebow's value as a mid-fourth round pick. Coupled with our 1st round pick its only enough to move up one or two spots. Maybe that 2 mill we paid factors in but I doubt it. Plus other than wishful thinking, why would the Jets do this? It would just add to the stupidity of the Tebow trade in the first place. [Edit: I clearly don't know how to reply to people or quote a message. Sorry.]
heh....you quoted/replied just fine. Well...here's the "fly in the ointment." The value is in the eye of the beholder...all depends upon what other teams will set the value. Who knows....nothing the Jets do shock me. lol :breakdance:
I just feel like the value was hashed out so recently via the Jets, Jags and whoever else were invloved. The Jets won with likely the highest value. Therefore, any further move would seem to go for lesser than mid fourth value. Tebow is effectively worth nothing more than a 5th at this point unless some GM really wants to get fired. RIP Al Davis.
I love the idea of trading with Jax or whomever but I don't think it will EVER happen :sad: Not when they gave this guy his own press conference and have made and sold a gazzilion Jerseys,,,,,,no I think he stays and the team sadly gets divided and fans scream for Sanchez's head---yep thats what I see coming-----but I love the idea of trading him for the right price :beer:
Can you explain what the multiple comma's is supposed to mean? I'm fairly certain that's not a legit thing to do with the English language but I've seen several people use it recently. Thanks.
why would a team do now at a higher price, than what they could have done a couple months ago for the cheap? if you're a jets homer and tool, you come up with stupid trades no team would do except a homer fan living in "LA LA LAND". christ, i love the laughs i get off this board, but it's getting harder to dumb down to the level of some kindergarten graduates!
Wow...no need to get personal! Let me answer your question with the most obvious of answers. First, OTA's are going to be 3 weeks into it by the time of the Draft. Most teams will KNOW, now, what they do and do not have. That alone may be enough to entice someone into a trade. Also, let us use the Jaguars as the most likely and prime example. That team has more holes than swiss cheese. People bitching on our boards about all the needs WE have should look at the Jaguars and be happy about our dilemma. I would gladly package Tebow, our first and maybe a 3rd, 4th or 5th to Jacksonville to move up. Jacksonville could easily do this as they NEED picks..lots of them. If you think that a trade of that nature looks insane then maybe you need to step back and re-think your thought process. Or....look no further than an idiot in who traded a whole draft, once upon a time, for Ricky Williams. I've seen far crazier trades go down over the years...and in this case it's not all that far gone considering how much 1st round draft picks do not get paid anymore. Maybe you should THINK a little bit more before calling the rest of us ignorant kindergartners and "tools".
Well first off let me say thank you for asking me what they mean as you could have asked several others but instead chose me :beer: Someone else asked a few weeks ago if I was having some type of fit or seizure,,,,,,I thought that was pretty comical but I stray,,,,,to answer you Longtime,,,,,,,I can not speak for any of the several others but there is no particular reason why I put those there,,,,,,,,,kinda like a calling card I guess,,,,,,you know when the lone ranger used to leave a silver bullet Ps IF the nuns and ex girlfriends that were English majors saw these posts they might cringe as I am sure it is not correct along with much of my grammar,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe I do it to make em cringe
Vontaze Burfict will be drafted. I don't care how bad he interviewed. He shows flashes of ray lewis on the field. Id be shocked if Burfict was available after round 4 concludes Jeffery will not be available in the third rd. I doubt he's even available come the jets 2nd rd pick. There will be a run on WRs in the mid to late 1st. And for all the talk of jefferys stock slipping teams are smokescreening. Jeffery has some of the best hands in this draft. Ppl are just scared about his playing weight. Coples is a freak but there's something about him that worries me. I think Upshaw is better suited as a 4-3 de in the nfl. I would love for us to get Massie in the 2nd rd. That guy is a plug and play from day one. My ideal 2nd rd pick would be harrison smith but I've heard teams at the end of rd 1 pats/ravens and early 2nd specifically the bucs are high on him. Trumaine johnson would be a nice consolation prize though.
I really don't want Tanny messing with our 1st rounder unless it's to trade back a few spots. Wondering what people would think about us trading our 3rd to move up to the top of the second if a Hightower/H.Smith/McClellin is there. With 2 6's and 2 7's we can't trade, the other 6 and 7 are pretty much up for grabs, and together they're worth about 22 points. Our 3rd is worth 205, and the difference between our 2nd and the top of the second is 150. So let's say we traded our 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th (657 points) for a high 2nd and a high 4th. We'd still have our 5th, plus 4 low picks, plus we'd almost guarantee that we walk away from the weekend with two starters.
ok, i'll take back the tool, but it's a kindergaten trade. jacksonville could have had tebow if they wanted him that badly. to think they give up their #1 pick now when they could draft someone better with #7 (i believe) is crazy. face it, no matter how you spin it, xmas isn't going to come early for the jets. they're stuck with tebow for the good or the bad.
Sorry for my Kinder garden education.....You can take that up with University of Cincinnati (Accounting degree) and Rutgers University (Masters in Taxation) for lack of intelligence..... Anyway, I dont see why we wouldnt trade tebow, he sold the jerseys we wanted and the Tickets so why not unload him........It would only make the qb situation better and give mark an actual chance, Even if we trade tebow for a 3rd id do it. I could be wrong maybe 2 qbs will work I just dont see it. I honestly see tebow starting from us fans chanting for him and than the team goes down the drain
Mike T. started off promising, but I think he has totally fizzled out as a GM. I have totally lost faith in him as far as the draft goes. WAY too much trading up and falling in love with certain players, as opposed to just picking the BOP in areas of need when they are on teh clock at their appointed spot. His abject failure at getting starters through the draft, and instead looking to free agency to get this team starters, probably should at least have him on the hot seat. But Woody seems to think he can do no wrong. Of course Woody himself seems to have taken to running this team too much as a business instead of a sports franchise. Signing a big name or drafting a big name, regardless of need, for the purposes of getting the Jets name in the headlines, has taken the place of getting the Jets name out there by getting productive players and winning games. This approach by both owner and GM will lead only to mediocrity. Spare me the 2 AFC championships in 2 years argument, too. This team has not improved one bit since the end of last season, and maybe even gotten a little worse. The locker room situation has certainly gotten worse. As for what Mike T will do this draft, I expect it will have to do more with "shiny" than anything else.
We need as many picks as we can get. Holes all over the roster, aging vets all over the roster, depth issues all the roster. But who's to say he even know's what to do with the picks? We've seen over his history he has been pretty useless drafting.
