Tannenbaum = Hypocrite

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  1. BlairThomas#1

    BlairThomas#1 New Member

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    i am fine with your argument as you are basing it on the market. as i said in a previous post, I think that Revis ends up with a 5-year deal, but I don't think that the Jets should be villified for trying to get a 6th year. A few other teams have successfully done that.
     
  2. sect105

    sect105 New Member

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    Give him a 5 year deal, so if he sux or gets hurt, I do not have to hear about him taking up space in year 6.
     
  3. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    by "trying" you mean "insisting" right?
     
  4. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Well, if he doesn't like who picked him, why'd he enter the draft?

    You think Leinart was ecstatic to be a Cardinal?

    If guys have teams they don't want to play for, they can choose not to declare for the draft. If you want to play the game, you go to the draft, you accept who picks you, and you take it when you get a fair deal.

    Life's a bitch.
     
  5. BlairThomas#1

    BlairThomas#1 New Member

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    Again, are you related to Revis?

    Final Point
    You do realize that talking about a 5-year deal for 6-year deal in a vacuum, without the facts around dollars and other considerations is completely worthless.

    In other words, couldn't it be possible that the Jets are offering above market on the guaranteed money (on a per year basis) in the 6-year deal, but Revis is "insisting" on a 5-year deal. It's all speculation. Furthermore, you could actually figure out statistically what that 6-year is worth (based on probablities of being a "star," projected cap and market values, etc.) which would make Revis and his agent indifferent to a 5 or 6 year deal.

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    (I think the Jets should just trade Revis to the Pats for Samuel. That way, the Jets can pay for a proven commodity and the Pats can give Revis his 5-year deal.)
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This thread illustrates the understanding you have of the contract process.
     
  7. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    i never said he hates the jets or anything like that. you guys act like he is sitting there negotiating with tannenbaum by himself. its between his agent and the jets. the guy doesnt have a clue about whats going on right now.

    btw i was listening to jon beason earlier and he is holding out as well. just to show you what the players are going through right now:

     
  8. Section 227. Row 5

    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    The very title and object of this thread indicates an acute naivety for contractual negotiations and a dire lack of business acumen. When entering into a contract, you negotiate. That doesn't mean that the person or entity you're dealing with is "difficult" or "insisting," or a "mean bastard" or any other personally derogatory term you want to use for impugning the business prowess of the other side.

    The other common misconception most lay people have about business contracts is, they think that no good can come of them and that they'll lead to more problems or difficulties in the long run and that only "big business" will benefit, and they'll surely be "screwed." When I enter into contracts with people and they tell me, "Gee, I don't think we need a contract, we both know what we want." I answer, "If we both know what we want, it's best to put it in writing. This way, by entering into a contract, we'll actually prevent any future misunderstandings, not create them."
     
  9. BlairThomas#1

    BlairThomas#1 New Member

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    sanity...thank you.
     
  10. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    this is what happens when the inmates take over!!!:) :breakdance:
     
  11. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    trade him? how? we havent even signed him yet
     
  12. MisterMoss

    MisterMoss PRO-American

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    You can trade the rights to a player. Remember Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers? They weren't signed when they were traded.
     
  13. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    thanks, i realized that. but i think at some point one of them should be smart enough to say "okay, lets not waste this kids' rookies season". its just me, i know. let them negotiate for another 38 months. it's all cool.
     
  14. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Please explain why it's the organization that should bend... Because everyone else signed 5 year deals... so what? I'm happy we aren't doin what everyone else is doing...
     
  15. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    thats true, my bad. maybe we should trade him to NE. i'll pass on samuel though.
     
  16. Exit 117

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    My eyes bleed when I read DaBallhawk's posts.
     
  17. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    uhm yes. if the jets dont care, why would HE care about what the jets think he should do?
     
  18. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Has nobody here ever been offered a contract or promotion of some sort that they deemed to not be worth it for certain reasons? Yes, it's football and there's millions of dollars involved. So what...the guy trained and played his ass off to get to this point. Not so different then a law student being near the top of his class at a highly respected law school. When he hit's the market he's in the drivers seat. Offers will be there and he'll have to decide which he likes best, or whats worth waiting for.

    People complaining that he's getting paid millions to play a game forget that football is big business. Revis seems to understand that and wants a contract that will allow him a big pay day sooner then later. Given the length of the contracts of the rookies signed around him, he seems to have a valid point.

    All that said, I can't see the guy wanting to wait a year to become a millionaire. I'd be surprised to see this roll past one week, but if it does then who the hell knows what he's prepared to do.
     
  19. Mehl-56

    Mehl-56 Well-Known Member

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    Because at 6 years he's most likely guaranteed to make more money in his guarneteed cash, and looking at the contract over the years, it will be a miracle if his makes it to 6 years...
     
  20. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

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    I think the want for an extra year my have something to do with his positition... Look at the recent history the league is having with cornerbacks... the huge contracts and the bickering (samuels) ... i can't remember off the top of my head a big time corner who's resigned with his original team the past few years... I side with the team on this one... Lock him up for as long as possible and aviod future drama...
     

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