Tankathon - 2021 Edition

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Sep 26, 2021.

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I know you watch film as do I but i highly doubt you are watching other teams centers. I know I don't but I do know a few of those you mentioned have been awful as in almost GVR levels of bad. I do read a lot of NFL forums. I always welcome your 2c personally and yes i agree a 3 game stretch doesn't make moore a number 1, but as you said you watch the film and if you don't see it in the film then i'm not sure what to tell you because to me he looks like a young ODB on film but without the spectacular catch ability. he's just a guy who gets open, runs great routes and can take a short pass a long way with sure hands who doesn't drop passes. I've personally watched a lot of moore and forget about the stats he just has it and it's clear on film as well. which is why the coaches gave him the starting job day 1 over established solid players like cole, crowder, and berrios and not to mention mims who he clearly beat out as well so you know they aren't playing favorites to picks or we'd see more mims
     
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    Losmeister Well-Known Member

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    that's the worst
     
  3. jilozzo

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    no, saying if you do not have an all-pro caliber CB on the field your chance of having a top 10 defense goes down significantly.

    my definition of all pro level is a very good player, top 100 or slightly below. whether he is voted an official all pro may depend on other off the field factors that i really dont care about.
     
  4. MaximusD163

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    Well I don’t sit down to do a film review of centers obviously but when I watch all 22 I pay attention to almost every player in some way. Generally I use the All-22 view to watch receivers and coverage, half paying attention to where any potential pressure arises or which direction the run goes. If I feel like I didn’t see how the play developed well enough, I watch it again. Then I use the Endzone cam to watch the OL/DL on the same play. Unless I’m actually doing a film review on YouTube of course there are some players who I don’t see that closely, but because the Center is right in the middle of every Endzone cam play he’s one of the guys where everything he does is hard to miss. I'm no Brandon Thorn, I'm not an expert on OL and DL play, I don't know the exact terminology for every single obscure technique. But I see what they are doing, what they are asked to do and how effective they are at executing it.
     
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    I may be mistaken, but I don't recall ever reading or hearing that Davis has dropped that many passes in the past. I don't know if it's because now the he has gotten paid if he's going to dog it ala Trumaine Johnsons or Mo Wilkerson, or if he's just not focused because he thinks this team isn't going to win this year anyway, or what, but he needs to get his shit together.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Davis has struggled hanging on to passes his whole career. His 59% catch rate right now for the Jets is right in line with his career average. Last season was the outlier, catching 70% but it was also a contract year so who knows

    I dont think he is dogging it. I think he isn't physically strong enough for the role they are trying to use him in. In Tennessee A.J. Brown was that guy they went to for the tough catch in traffic, Davis played opposite of him.
     
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  7. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure you know and maybe see some of it but the list you made clearly was based on name and not film because as i said a few of them are having awful years mainly bradbury, kelly, and mccoy. The fact you listed them over mcgovern let me know you haven't watched them because you are too smart to have actually watched the film and still say they are better this year then mcgovern. for instance here is an article about bradbury struggling this year https://www.startribune.com/garrett...tment-and-the-plan-to-correct-that/600097604/ there is an article defending him but it also points this out
    bradbury can't handle big DTs and gets bowled over and typically right away. he's the vikings GVR. he's been so bad this year and last. it's like saying GVR is better then mcgovern for us. I know it's hard to track the o-line so i'm not trying to knock you or anything. But the main point was fans underrating players on a bad team and overrating players on good teams and you lisitng bradbury as better then mcgovern in your words "comfortably better" proves my point. You took a bad player from a good team and claimed he was "comfortably better" then a good player on a bad team.
     
  8. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Jets now have the 2nd overall pick according to Tankathon.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Always a bridesmaid.
     
  10. James Hasty

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    Need Seahawks to keep losing as well.

    Now that Sam is on the bench we can root for the Panthers to fail too.
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jets can trade down a bit and get some needed depth.

    They can take a QB somewhere between the early 2nd (potential starter) and the early 4th (quality depth) and run a real QB competition in camp between several prospects instead of annointing one guy and riding him into the ground.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Why did we need Sam to be on the bench in order to root against the Panthers? It actually hurts us that Sam is on the bench. He blows.
     
  13. Attackett

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    You know the Jets are not drafting a Qb this year right? I know you do…

    Hopefully Detroit falls in love with a QB.
     
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  14. Metstrife

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    The Jets should use some of this draft capital to trade for proven players. Where have high first round picks got us the last ten years?

    The draft is a total crapshoot. I know it’s not traditional but I think we’ll see more teams go the Rams route
     
  15. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He's trolling. Or just a an idiot. I'm going with bad trolling.
     
  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If the Jets don't take a QB somewhere between the 2nd and 4th rounds JD is not doing his job. Given the Jets problems at QB they should probably take a QB somewhere in the draft every year until they find the guy.

    The alternative is to keep reaching for guys in the 1st round and then having their failure setup the next reach a few years down the road.

    If you have several guys who might be the guy on the roster it tamps down the pressure to make a bad high pick. It allows you to draft naturally when the talent level and the pick coincide.

    It never hurts you to have too much potential QB talent on the roster.
     
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  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I'm dead serious.

    After watching another season of Zach Wilson you will be too.
     
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  18. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    I think if you can get Hutchinson, pull the trigger. If you get a decent package for the other pick, go for it. Trading down always depends on someone else wanting to move up
     
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    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Unless Zack Wilson bombs the rest of the year, there’s 0 chance with all the defensive holes they use a 2nd or 3rd on a QB for insurance. Just imagine the backlash if that happened. If they have faith in Zack, a proven backup Qb is usually on the market to help mentor him.
     
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  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    He does, but every time he says it, the same handful of Wilsonites lose their shit. I find it entertaining.
     
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