Tank vs win

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Jedi mind tricks, Dec 12, 2016.

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How do you want to finish the season?

  1. Sweep final 3 games against division rivals

    25 vote(s)
    55.6%
  2. Lose final 3 games against division rivals

    20 vote(s)
    44.4%
  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yes, I was.

    We're you around when I said "smartly"?
     
  3. SonofDinger

    SonofDinger Well-Known Member

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    Ha! I guess I was strictly reacting to the last sentence. Still trying to finish my first coffee.
     
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  4. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Just win baby.

    Good teams are more likely to draft in the bottom 5 than the top 5. Heck, NE has the best record in football and hasn't drafted in the top 10 in over 400 years!

    The draft is next year, and like Biz said, draft like you belong.

    Until then, just win baby!
     
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    Wah Well-Known Member

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  6. Jets69

    Jets69 Well-Known Member

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    So what savior are we going to draft with our 4-12 record and top 5 pick.

    I say we draft a CS with our 1st round pick
     
  7. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Well-Known Member

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    There's no moral victories in professional sports. I'd love to see them spoil the Dolphins, Pats, or Bills playoff chances, but the Dolphins handled us tonight, the Pats are gonna be the 2nd seed, at worst, and the Bills will very likely have nothing to play off in week 17.

    Having a higher pick doesn't just give you the chance to pick a better player, it significantly increases your leverage and bargaining power throughout the draft.
     
  8. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    If I were a GM I'd trade out of the 1st every year. I'd get as many 2nd and 3rd round pics that I could. Try and get 3 or 4 of these high (but not 1st round) pics every draft, plus my lower pics for filling out the roster and depth.

    I would trade you my 1st round pic for your 2nd round pick this year AND next year, plus your 3rd next year. Something like that. Having 5-6 picks every year from 33 to 66 would not suck, plus no overpaid first round prima donnas who turn into a bust.
     
  9. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    After tonight, we now know that the team needs an entire right side of its OLine...

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  10. Snoopdogg

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    Okay, Belichick, put down the keyboard and go prep for tomorrow's game in Denver. :p
     
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  11. Snoopdogg

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    Grrr.... F'in Tanking discusssion again. I'm getting tired of complaining on different threads that tanking never works.

    And this year? Heck, I was listening to Cleveland sports the other day and _they_ don't seem to know who they want to draft. Browns are another team that desperately needs a QB as well, but there's no elite QB they want to take at #1. So they are looking at Myles Garrett. Given that, you want the Jets to tank so they go to #1 to draft yet another freaking defensive lineman?

    No. Please. Build a culture that rewards effort, discipline, and winning. Go get a QB. No need to deliberately lose. That doesn't help anybody.
     
  12. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Who's there to tank for?
     
  13. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Our defense is so bad that we can lose out without trying to tank.
     
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  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And people still want to keep Bowels..this is his defense no matter what moron they say is in charge of it.
     
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  15. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    as others have said - I want to see young players show something, in particular Petty - if that gets us a win, fine, if we lose, fine so long as we see some progression

    not like a draft pick or two is going to turn this team around anyway (unless they get lucky in the QB stakes) - we need a new coaching staff and a top tier QB and nothing else is going to change things.
     
  16. David-The-Meats-Harris

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    To me, it would seem absurd to think a coach would want to tarnish their performance record, the barometer by which they are judged, for a better draft pick. Especially a rookie-ish coach, that happens to be on the downside of the score when he tries to win. Just sayin..

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  17. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't that be nice. Sort of what New England does, literally every year? They miss plenty on draft picks, but they have so many they're bound to hit.

    2009 - 0 1st round picks, 4 2nd round picks, 2 3rd round picks, 2 6th round picks, 2 7th round picks (12 total)
    2010 - 3 2nd round picks, 4 7th round picks (12 total)
    2011 - 2 2nd round picks, 2 3rd round picks, 2 5th round picks (9 total)
    2012 - 2 1st round picks, 2 7th round picks (7 total)
    2013 - 0 1st round picks, 2 2nd round, 2 3rd round picks, 2 7th round picks (7 total)
    2014 - 3 4th round picks, 3 6th round picks (9 total)
    2015 - 3 4th round picks, 2 6th round picks, 2 7th round picks (11 total)
    2016 - 3 3rd round picks, 3 6th round picks (9 total)

    Meanwhile we had 4 picks in 2007, 3 picks in 2009, 4 picks in 2010, 6 picks in 2015. We wonder why the special teams is awful and there is absolutely no depth along the offensive line or in the secondary when a player gets hurt.
     
  18. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    Like father like son.
     
  19. Terminated117

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    Errm..Not so sure it counts as "Tanking" when we really suck this bad
     
  20. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    True

    But

    Tank to embarrass woody into selling
     

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