If he's complete shit, I have faith that Ryan will get rid of him. The guy knows defense so if the HC thinks enough of him to keep him around, I have to believe there's something there.
Sutton spent years as this team's LB coach and no one complained. How is it that you geniuses never knew he was bad at that job before? Next year we'll watch CLE run the same defenses that all of you are blaming on Sutton.
its about changing the regime over and getting rid of the braintrust involved with the shitty defense. why have any coach from the last regime stay on D when they couldn't get the job done? When do are LB coaches the sole responsibility for a defense? He was promoted, he failed, he leaves when the new guys come in. That's how it works.
I can't believe just how stubborn you are in your thinking (or maybe I can lol). Just because someone may fail at one level, doesn't make them useless. In fact, keeping someone on board from a prior group can help with some continuity... like they can help from a history standpoint so the new regime doesn't have to come in and learn certain things about players the hard way. To say EVERYONE has to go because a HC is fired is pretty short sighted, and it is not how it works if you look at any other teams and their firings. Some people almost always get retained. Your way of thinking says that anyone that has Sutton on their staff is going to fail to get a super bowl win... that is just silly. I do believe that a HC should have the option of keeping or releasing old staff. Holding people over him is a bad idea, but we don't know if this has truly happened. It's all speculation.
Every last one of them should have been let go. The offense failed. The defense failed and the HC failed. Of course Johnson wouldn't want to pay the few hundred grand that would have cost.
my stubborness comes from not only how their efforts played out on that defense, but how they went about it. It was soft. And i just don't want that part of the continuity to continue.... Also, the LB position in a 3-4 is very important, and this loser is now coaching them in the meeting room? I'd rather have someone else who knows the 3-4 better as well. Sutton has been a 4-3 guy his entire career except for the last 3, and he didn't show any improvement. They wanted him gone at the end of 07 and now he's still here. I just don't see how its good for the players to see the old DC still here and now teaching the LBers. That is a position of passion, that man has none. I truly think Ryan knows someone who can do a better job. Why they don't find that guy makes me think of the SOJ.
Whether Sutton is ignored by the Ryan staff, or used well will show up because there are no muzzles on the CS this year. We'll find out how things are going from the coaches and the players. But you guys who continue to pile horse waste on Sutton's head just don't have any respect for Ryan. You think he would cave on a non-negotiable demand from the FO on a position coach? You really believe that big ugly guy is a wus? You figure Ryan can't find a LB coach so he SETTLED? See, it's Ryan you guys are really dissing, not the FO. I think you just like the feel of your scapegoat's scrawny throat in your feckless fan fists.
I think he was told when he was offered the job that certain coaches would have to be retained this year. If you want to call that caving then by all means do so. He gave him a job where he will be harmless as the new DC did that job for years.
Doesn't make sense. If all lower level coaches get replaced when a new HC comes in then Sutton would never have stayed on when Mangini took over from Edwards. And Rex Ryan would not have stayed on when Harbough took over from Billick. And so on and so on. Its very common for assistants to survive a HC change.
Maybe Sutton knows nobody would be stupid enough to hire him. Better keep the job he's got in this economy.
