A lot of overreaction in this thread. The reason people get to where they are in the NFL typically is because they were excellent at the level below them. Hence, a lot of great coordinators who don't cut it as head coaches, or in Sutton's case, a great positional coach who couldn't cut it as a coordinator. Bradway was an absolutely awful GM who set the Jets back years... but having been demoted to the head of Player Personnel, aka scouting, which is what Bradway does best, he has worked brilliantly with Tannenbaum on scouting out good draft prospects over the past three years. There is nothing wrong with keeping him on, so long as he's not the one calling the shots on D. Being that Ryan will be calling the D, you have to figure that Sutton is actually twice removed now.
Ya know, at least he can't stop the team from blitzing now when they double on Jenk. Mind numbing shit. You have a double on your best player and you're still dropping your guys back in coverage without blitzing. I want to see this attack now, and I want to see Bob on the sideline saying "hey that was cool, what do you call that?"
I'm okay with Sutton staying on as a Position coach. I actually always thought he did a good job in that role before being promoted to D.C.
The Jets don't know when to cut a guy loose. If Sutton is so good why hasn't any, ANY team talked to him about ANY position. The only team willing to even hire the man is the Jets and Woody doesn't want to let him go.
If that is what he really wants to do Don, I have no issue with it providing they are moved to a closet somewhere in the training complex and not allowed to have a serious role. But then again, Sutton as a LB coach, or an assistant (not running the defense) could actually be a good thing. Maybe, just maybe, the incoming HC staff feels he can make a contribution. Not everything is about Woody being a cheap bastard.
What is it about Sutton that makes anyone think he can make a contribution at any level? The analogy to Bradway is not that tight a fit, since Terry had a background as a scout, was over his head as GM, and went back to what he was doing. I know Sutton has a background, but he also has exemplified a defensive approach that failed. Assuming Ryan changes that approach, which was the reason he was brought here, for the most part, how does Sutton inspire confidence that he will contribute to that change of approach? I don't see the logic at work here.
I really cannot know what Sutton can or cannot contribute to any great detail. I just know I don't want to see the guy running our defense anymore, because it seemed half-assed the whole time he was "in-charge" of it. But, the guy does have a lot of coaching experience. It is hard to believe that he's completely useless, and if this was truly the case, and Woody was too cheap to fire him, I would trust the guy running the coaching staff to put Sutton someplace where he won't do any damage. Either situation works for me.
I highly doubt they kept him on for monetary reasons. What could a LB coach make? I know they added the "Assistant defensive" label on him, whatever that means, but I'm sure it wasn't money. Now if they had given him the title of Assistant to the assistant of head coaching assistants/Sanitary Workplace Manager/LB coach that would be another story.
If U read Cimini today he alleges that it was Manginis D & it was it Man who was running it & Sutton was only the puppet & the person to blame when it went south
maybe because his strenght is not as DC but as LB coach, everyone is good at something, some guys can be good coaches but not GM or good GM and not good HC, c'mon we are happy the Boss made the change we needed lets not forget he does have a family to take care of.
