Super Bowl XLVIII Discussion (Broncos vs Seahawks)

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Who wins Super Bowl XLVIII?

  1. Broncos

    50 vote(s)
    64.9%
  2. Seahawks

    27 vote(s)
    35.1%
  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Pete Carroll?

    The first Steelers team I'm not too sure about. The 2008 team is a good call. Forgot about them. Top defense and average offense that could make plays.
     
  2. Aewhistory

    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    I'm 40 as well and what kills me is I remember getting into football when teams like the Seahawks, Buccs, and Cards were all the epitome of losing. They were each laughingstocks of the NFL. Now all three have made the SB and two have won. Moreover, one of the expansion teams has even made a SB. After awhile it gets a little sad. Luckily we still have the Lions.... For now.
     
  3. soxxx

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    My analysis:

     
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    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, can you repeat that? ;)
     
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    Yeah mismatch completely, Seattle dealt with big time weapons all through the year and shut em down, Denver never dealt with a big time secondary or defense. It is what it is now.
     
  6. Aewhistory

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    Ive never heard that version but, if true, I'd have to say that really puts a huge negative mark on what was a mostly very good BP era until the end.
     
  7. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    That had to have been the worst SBs that I can remember (I'm not that old so don't kill me :grin:). After the safety it was all downhill. Once Lynch scored that TD in the 2nd there was no looking back. The only interest anyone I was with had in the game from then on was to see how badly the blow out was going to be or if Denver was actually going to score at all.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    Worst SB since the Seahawks/Steelers to me. Why that was so bad was because it felt like the refs were one sided and that the game was just boring.

    The 2011 SB was boring between NYG/NE to me until the final drive obviously. The 2012 drive got good post blackout. The 2010 SB was fun, same with 2009.

    Pitt/ARZ was probably my favorite SB since STL/TEN. I'm also young so my memories starts with the Falcons/DEN SB I believe.
     
  9. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    Seattle played Cards, Rams, Saints, Niners Ds. Then they got the Broncos. They had to be salivating on offense. Sherman called it. Peyton just doesn't have the arm to beat them
     
  10. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    Smart guy ^^^^
     
  11. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Seems like your discrediting the Seahawks D? Broncos could have won the game, it became more difficult once SEA was executing well on D but they got 0 from anyone and everyone they needed to pull off the win.

    They turned Peyton Manning into a dink and dunker. Historically, Peyton Manning turning into a dink and dunker means the defense is limiting the big play. Limiting the big play means getting the offense off the field without 7 points, meaning well you can win the game with less points
     
  12. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    It felt like a mismatch from early in the second quarter when Seattle got up 15-0 and was completely dominating at that point. You hate to say the second play of the game decided it but it seemed as if the Broncos went speeding into the abyss after that safety and never recovered.
     
  13. displacedfan

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    I think the key play was when they hit PM's arm and that ball went into the air. Moreno lost sight of it and Seahawks turned it into 7. The nail in the coffin was the Thomas fumble in the second half. If the Harvin return TD wasn't enough. It was crazy to see every single unit of DEN getting manhandled by SEA. SEA matched up so well and executed so well. I knew they were a good team, a really good team, but this good was surprising.
     
  14. displacedfan

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    To me, the best part of the SB is going to be the all 22 view and game analysis of this game. Cannot wait to see what the Seahawks did on defense. On offense it was clear they just out schemed and out executed the Broncos. Broncos had too many missed tackles, Ayers failed to hold the edge often, they let Wilson have so much time, and just played poorly. The other side is what interests me. The Broncos used a lot, a lot of WR screens to get going after going down early. The rarely took shots deep because it seemed there wasn't enough time or there wasn't anyone open. Will be interesting to see who Manning missed that was open. It will be even more interesting if there weren't people open.
     
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    Hopefully the AFC can get some new blood/teams into the SB next year, preferably the Jets.

    Since 2000:

    We've seen the Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, and Raiders. Overall 6 different teams represented in the AFC SB slot, with 4 teams holding 12 out 14 appearances.

    The NFC has
    NYG (x3), STL/ARZ with Warner, TB, CAR, PHI, SEA (x2), CHI, NO, GB, SF. The NFC has had 11 different teams.

    If you go just AFC championship games it becomes even more annoying since 01, 03, 04, 05, 06, 08, 11, 12, 13 two of the 6 above AFC teams played each other in the game.

    The missing slots:
    2002 OAK vs TEN
    2007 NE vs SD
    2009 IND vs NYJ
    2010 PITT vs NYJ
     
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    Hahahaha Bomani Jones has some words for PM twitter defense

    Bomani Jones ‏@bomani_jones 23m
    uh oh, the peyton manning capes are out!

    Bomani Jones ‏@bomani_jones 20m
    you can’t say a win in this game was gonna make peyton the GOAT and act like a loss is just another observation in the sample. oh no no.

    Bomani Jones ‏@bomani_jones 17m
    and when you give manning credit for being de facto offensive coordinator, you can’t just lean on “the other defense was great.”
     
  17. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    And that type of stuff is why I will be avoiding sports talk radio and all ESPN channels for at least the rest of February.

    I don't follow basketball anymore, so there are no live events anyway.

    Whatever the arguments might be, right or wrong, who is speaking about it, I don't care. I have had it hearing about Peyton Manning and his legacy and postseason failures. It is a tired topic. Hearing Wayne Fontes "Will he be fired?" rumors for about four years straight was pretty gosh darn annoying in the 1990s. Hearing the LeBron James ring chatter everyday for three or so years in a row was horrible. The Peyton Manning talk might top them all.
     
  18. Satan

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    See what happens when Tebow gets cut :)
     
  19. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Basketball is the worst because the season is so long so they get 2-3 months to focus on stuff like that. Although, thankfully, once Lebron got the ring the discussion I read about basketball has gotten much smarter and has more depth to it. Hopefully KD grabs a ring before he reaches that same level of over analysis and lack of appreciation of the talent he plays the game at

    Football gets really bad when it comes down to Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and then any QB after them. There are so many poor arguments on both sides and (I'm going to sound like a jerk here) too many uniformed opinions from people don't understand position players, coaching, and team football.

    Twitter takes all of this and creates the worse of it, since you only have 140 characters meaning a real conversations has to take 2-3 messages. Since most people don't want to or do that, it gets narrowed down to 140 and takes out the actual discussion.

    I agree with Bomani above, if someone was silly enough to say someone's "legacy" is based on one game, then if that game doesn't go their way, they can't back off of it. It happened in the AFC championship. "Peyton's legacy will be ruined if he loses to TB" "TB will cement his legacy if he beats PM here" Brady lost, nothing about his legacy. Peyton won, wait til next week. The flip side is people saying "this one SB will cement Peyton as GOAT" are now saying "But Seattle was the better team".

    That doesn't even address the silly point of a legacy riding on one game for a player. Or the even simple stuff like team football and really how effective the NFL playoffs are at rewarding the best team. It doesn't delve into the importance of the trenches and all the moving parts of a team. It doesn't take into all these little things which overall makes the topic of discussion watered down and usually unbearable as you just said.

    For some reason MLB doesn't suffer from this as much. I never understood if it's maybe because I don't follow MLB as closely, or because you just have so many games, it's pretty easy. Although I guess replaced PEDs with one player's legacy and you get an over saturation of the airwaves of one topic everyone already has an opinion on.

    EDIT: The side effect of over saturation though is you get some creative writers taking different views and angles and just new ideas to the table. Twitter allows these non major media writers express their opinion as strongly as someone tied to a major media company. The internet allows them to have the same voice and it lets the user (us) choose what we find correct, more interesting, or just better written. The availability of so many different ideas and writing should bring different ideas and talk to the table, but at the same time, easiest way to get hits tomorrow would be to have an article with a headline like this:
    "Is Russell Wilson elite, has he passed Luck as the best QB from the draft?"
    "Peyton Manning's legacy"
    "Will Seahawks be the first repeat SB winners since the 03-04 Patriots"
     
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  20. SienaSaints

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    Jets are going to win the superbowl next year boys. Have a feeling.
     

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