Suggestion Box: Jet's Offense.

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  1. JETFIGHTERS

    JETFIGHTERS Active Member

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    You know and I know there are some very informed football fans with foottball knowledge on the site. Years ago we had some of the most informed fans as well. It would seem to me that they are hidden or chose not to enter the fray. I had great respect for them even if we dissagree we all wanted the coaches and players to somehow know that fans have openions too and a different perspective. It will always be about the bottom line in the end reguardless. Do any NYJ's players or coaches come to this site and hear what we are saying. Doubtfull. The sole intention of these post is to inform,educate or to for the most part be part of something bigger than ourselves. We can be nasty,unrealistic, a homer, or a detractor,sarcastic,uninformed,plastered out of our minds or just not be mature enought to even comprehend, It's OK.
     
  2. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    1) Draw Plays - Not so sure if Jets can run it with success. As you stated, draw plays are good for when the D is too aggressive. That shouldn't be the case this Sunday though. Raiders have a good DL and should generate consistent pressure without needing to blitz or stunt.

    2) Screen Plays - Jets don't run them often. Is Sanchez good at these plays? Haven't seen the Jets run it enough to make a judgement myself.

    3) Rolling the Pocket - Don't think moving pocket is something the Jets should be doing consistently. If a defender is there to meet Sanchez before he sets himself, there's a higher risk of fumbles ... especially since Sanchez still has tendency to move while holding the ball with only one hand away from body. I think if Raiders need to travel the length of the field, Jets D will shut them down & constantly put Jets offense in good field position. So no need for offense to change it up too much if it increases chances of turnover.
     
  3. MikeDevito

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    Not run on 3rd and 15.
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    That depends upon the game situation. What is the score? How much time remains in the game? What is the line of scrimmage?

    Up 10-3 in the 2nd quarter with the ball on their own 26-yard line, the better option is to run on 3rd and 15. The goal would be to gain 7 or 8 yards and punt the ball and play the field position game. Heck, the Jets have a good defense. It's not like they have the 1981 Colts or 2010 Texans defense and to win the offense has to score just about every time it has the ball.
     
  5. HOI

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    Yea...after I posted that I though about the protection. Everytime Sanchez dropped back during the Dallas game I was shitting my pants because Ware was mauling Hunter. Now with Mangold out its not going to get any better. In the interest of preservation 3 step drops and quick releases may be better for awhile.
     
  6. Big Blocker

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    While normally I would be concerned about MS's leaving the pocket and the attendant greater risk of injury, it is with some irony to note that with Hunter and Baxter out there, staying in the pocket is not the safest place to be, either. So I expect at least for the Oakland game we will see the Jets rightly try and establish the running game, but probably throw in more roll outs than we usually see.
     
  7. rholt168

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    When the Jets establish the quick slants and when LT runs his flat route out of the backfield effectively it would be nice if they would then run a double move deep. It at the very least keeps the defense honest and prevents them from jumping the route inside.
     
  8. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    absolute agree with the op!

    ive been calling for more draws and stretches for that past few years ... DEs are selling out on our dropbacks every single 3rd down, there are wide open running lanes ... the coaching staff has even identified this and told sanchez to run more on 3rd down but they cant call a draw?

    teams are also run blitzing up the middle very often on early downs, why not attack the perimeter? when shonn greene burst on to the scene in late 09, he had huge plays on perimeter runs ... now its just dives behind b. moore, very little diversity
     
  9. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Against Jax Few of the run plays were designed to go in the A gap. There were at least 3 instances that I have seen from the first half alone where a play was designed to go in the B gap or off tackle but due to blocks not being there Greene was forced to cut back up the middle to get back to the LOS.

    Watching the game at full speed without going back and looking at every run play again to see what happened would give the impression that there is little variety. I am now of the opinion that there is too much variety, or more specifically, too many complicated blocking assignments. The line could use a few more straight forward blocking plays to get the running game going.

    There were a few instances against Jax were they had 6 in the box and instead of just letting everyone block the guy in front of them the assignments got overly complicated and some plays that should have been big gainers got blown up due to a bad missed block.
     
  10. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    yea, its the zone blocking scheme (which should employ a health dose of stretches i.e. shannahan) ... weve started out slow running the ball the past three years now, it takes some time for the OL to get in sync

    but regardless of how the OL attacks the DL, 80% of the run calls do not attack the perimeter of the D ... we are often running directly into a blitz
     
  11. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I can't speak to the Dallas game but this just simply isn't true for the Jax game. They pretty much never blitzed to begin with.

    I get that its a zone blocking scheme but they seem to have made some of these plays overly complicated. I am watching guys ignore a lineman lined up right in front of him in order to go after a linebacker leaving someone else to make a very difficult block. It got a few plus blown up against Jax.
     
  12. James Calvin

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    When Sanchez has space to use his feet he rarely takes any hits. They come from standing in a collapsing pocket. The rollout also gives open an open throwing lane downfield, so fewer tipped passes.
     
  13. Hobbes3259

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    Sanchez, From the Gun, plays with the ball out in 3 secs.

    keep it short and simple, and keep him over 63%
     
  14. jb1095

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    Draws, quickouts, play action will keep the defenses on their toes and the chains moving efficiently IMO. While throwing it 40 yards down field is exciting to see, I would settle to see the Jets dink and dunk there way past the chains and dominate time of possession and first downs. Not to mention it will help learn valuable information regarding opposing teams red zone defenses as you know they will have to adjust for the short passes/rushes.

    I also think it will help Sanchez get more comfortable. You have plenty of Playmakers, put the ball in their hands and let them go to work on yards after catch.

    + for this. Well said!
     
  15. dmw

    dmw Well-Known Member

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    Nothing - the Jets are 6th in the league in points scored.
     
  16. James Calvin

    James Calvin Banned

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    Just skimmed the offensive plays vs Jags (minus Brunell mop up time). Much of the same tendencies as the first game.

    There were no outside run attempts vs. Dallas.

    In the second game we had 12 inside runs and 5 outside the tackles. 4 of those 5 went for the longest yardage we had in the running game- and first downs.

    1 Screen pass.

    1 roll out

    13 passes thrown under 10 yds vs 8 attempts over 10 yards.
     

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