Yeah I hope he stays healthy too, but a veteran on top of the chart seems safe football wise and media wise it gives them nothing Yep. If Sanchez is here and he somehow passes smith and Garrard, let him start. No harm in geno watching NFL speed for a couple weeks before jumping in. The way Geno has spoked though, he believes he will be starting
Whoever wins the starting job will be the starter for the Jets! Personally, I'm rooting for the young kid...
Rookies don't wait on the bench for their time anymore. When they're drafted that early -- they start. I voted for him to get the nod week 1.
Would you REALLY throw Geno Smith to the wolves and ruin his development at the same time? Look at the schedule man. Its a bitch for the first part of the season and any of those teams perhaps with the exception of Buffalo would eat Smith for breakfast. Sit the kid. We're not making any waves this year. Let him learn. Don't make the same mistake with Geno that they did with Sanchez.
If he proves himself in camp then he should start. Remember Andy Dalton was a 2nd round draft pick that earned his starting spot and ended up having a solid rookie year.
I won't pretend to know what roster Dalton walked into but I can't imagine it was worse than ours from an offense side of things. I would sit him all season, have Sanchez ornGarrard start and suffer for it. Everyone expects Sanchez to fail so when he does no big deal and nobody has any expectations for Garrard so off he sucks nobody will be terribly surprised. At best he shouldn't play until after the bye week if (when?) We're totally out of a playoff spot anyway. If he goes on a miraculous run that's great, if not then at least it isn't all on him.
Ill wait and see how he does in preseason before I make my prediction but Im pulling for him to start and think hes very capable.
This guy won't be ready for 2013, what is everyone kidding here? Being with a team in college that hyped his stats and made him look all world is clouding peoples judgments into think he's going to be another Russel Wilson. Even if he does have a good showing in camp, that means squat...it's just pre-season fodder. He does have talent , but he's shown to be indecisive at times and can be rattled. Sanchez should start and let Smith hold the clipboard for a while.
Sanchez should've sat when he came to NY. Can't make the same mistake again. Let Geno sit for the first half or 3/4 of the season then play him.
Geno needs to be silent especially when he said we were going to the playoffs. He needs to sit back with his mouth shut, no dream team, no Superbowl talk, just learn.
He's no Andrew Luck or RG3 and he doesn't have a good enough team around him right now where it would be in the best interests of his development long term to throw him to the wolves yet. Going into 2013, you know this is a year where expectations are low. Start sanchez or garrard and see how things play out. If after 10 games or so the team is 2-8 or 3-7 and the qb play is trash them start geno the rest of the way to get an idea of what you have. If the team exceeds expectations and surprises especially at the qb position then there's no need to play him this season. Most likely he's starting by week 8-9 though and if the jets are bad enough to draft a top qb next season they should unless geno shows a lot Carolina drafted jimmy clausen in the 2nd round in 2010. He didn't do much so they drafted cam newton in 2011
I want Smith to start the season riding the pine and what ever QB we use, I want him to win and keep winning so Smith never sees the field and we trade him next year for a 1st. That is my positive spin on this situation. You can't bench a winner! Once Smith steps on the field and he performs terrible, his stock will drop fast. Keep him an unknow factor and maybe we get a possitive gain. I hate the Smith pick and the only alternative i can get behind is one of the other QBs winning the starting job and never give it up.
does anyone have confidence in Garrard to do anything? The guy is injury-prone, old, and hasn't played in 2 years. I think things will clear up a bit when the Jets decide if they are cutting sanchez b/c then we'll know who would be taking part in an open competition.
We started Sanchez as a rookie after only 1 year of college ball so why not? My personal opinion though would be to start Garrard for awhile and bring Smith in around week 6.
What does it matter? People keep talking like this team has a chance of advancing this year, it doesn't, we will probably end up last in our division.
Just a little something on my view of Geno, and Geno Vs Sanchez, that I wrote up in another thread but decided it didn't belong in that thread and so cut it out and am putting it here. Forgive me if it makes references to some things that are in the other thread, I didn't re-edit what I cut out. I don't believe Smith will be ready to be a day one starter, he has A LOT of adjustments to make. He took almost all of his snaps from the shotgun, something that won't happen at the NFL level. Additionally of his 518 pass attempts 177 of them were at or behind the line of scrimage, 112 of those were screen passes. (which i might point out is the anti-Sanchez since Sanchez always had problems with those types of passes.). Thats 34.2% of Geno's passes were at or behind the line of scrimage. to put that in perspective, of the other QB's in this draft class (of the top 15 Qb's anyways) the next highest percentage was 21.4 by Nassib, the lowest percentage of this type of pass was Tyler Bray at 10.5% and the average was around 18%.. Most telling, only 14.5% of his passes were 15 or more yards in the air, by FAR the lowest percentage. Now on those passes of at the line or behind the line of scrimmage Geno completed 88.3% of those passes. which isn't the top completion percentage at that rage, but is respectible and is about the average completition percentage of all the prospects in that range catagory, so he's not the most accurate there, but he's not the least accurate either. His completion percentage stays at or above 60% up till the 15 yard attempt. At 15-19 yards he drops to 58%, and at 20 or more he drops to a mediocre 40%. A 33% completion rate at 20-24 yards isn't very good, in fact of the prospects he was drafted against it's the lowest of anyone and tied with Bray and Landry Jones. Now this may be because of the system he was in, or it may be because of his own limitations. That's what we'll find out over the next two years. But that's the opposite of Sanchez, Sanchez never has had a good touch on the short passes and screen passes. Over his career Sanchez has completed about 65% of his at or behind the line of scrimmage passes. and on average over his career has completed only about 59% of his passes of 1-10 yards. One could argue, and I think successfully, that if Sanchez was a better short passer then he would be an acceptable QB. But, he's not. one thing you can't argue, and this is why from day one Geno should be a better QB than sanchez at the pro level, Geno doesn't throw pick offs, but both are prone to fumbles. In college, and I'll just compare their college careers here, Geno had an interception rate over his career of 1.43% of his passes being intercepted. Sanchez, by comparison, had 3.3% of his passes intercepted. But the biggest difference between Sanchez and Smith in college is sample size. Sanchez in his entire college career had only attempted 487 passes. Smith on the other hand had thrown 1,465 attempts. This, to me, illustrates the dangers of drafting a college QB in high rounds who's of limited experince, you don't really know what your getting. It's in a way comparable to an NFL back up stepping in for a few games, or maybe a season, having one good season and some team offering him 15 million dollar contract despite having no real track record to compare it with. in many cases it turns out to be a career year.
I agree where he should shut his mouth and answer questions with simple answers and he shouldn't give the media much, but you have to like the kids confidence.
I think he was also super amped up after the most stressful 2 days of his life and was probably all excited emotion. Just my 2 cents though.
Different circumstances imo. That 09 defense was arguably elite and the running game was more then serviceable to take the pressure off Sanchez and limit what was asked of him. This team is worse on both sides of the ball. Throwing him to the wolves early with this team would stunt his growth and they'll most likely draft another qb next year. This is a transition year and expectations should be minimal at best. If Sanchez is going to get paid. Might as well let him take the hits and be the scapegoat and get beat up and let geno smith start later this season
