Sssshhhhh: Jets practice their Wildcat package in secret

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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Because sometimes when Tebow ran as a dropback QB, its not planned. You don't want to base your offense off of broken plays.

    Also, Tebow in the WC still allows Sanchez to lineup at WR or in the backfield with Tebow. It adds additional formations.

    One I think could happen is if Sanchez is at WR and Tebow at shotgun, they don't like the look so Tebow goes into a FB/Te position and Sanchez goes under center which I think would be legal.
     
  2. ItsTime

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    The difference is sports news outlets have nothing to report about that, hence the "wildcat" mystery, just to keep you clicking, watching, or both...
     
  3. Bills over Jets

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    I dont like when teams put their starting QB at WR in the wildcat package. I'm not sure why the other teams just dont tell their DB's to tee off on him.

    With that said, I think things get interesting only when Sanchez is the QB, and Tebow is on the field somewhere. I dont care about Tebow when he's QB or in the wildcat, but I think you can really do some tricky things with Sanchez as the QB, and Tim lined up in a myriad of positions, RB, FB, TE, Slot, Wing, H-back. That would be cool to see.
     
  4. Bannon

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    This question contains the key to all the secrecy, IMO. I think the Jets are going to roll out a system the likes of which we haven't seen before, essentially a hybrid "wildcat" with WAY more flexibility.

    The implementation that would be unstoppable is a first string offensive set where Tebow comes in and has a complicated system of checks -- he can check to what hole he wants to hit on the run, check to a pass, even call a pass that turns into a delayed action run.

    The reason the thing was unstoppable at Florida is they got it so fine-tuned. From a bunch of similar formations, they could check to just about anything that would bust the defense if the defense started trying to stack against any particular thing.

    In theory, the offensive approach has only one weakness -- that no one could do it for 60 minutes.
     
  5. Footballgod214

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    The REAL advantage to having Tebow and the threat he brings is not to Tebow, but to Mark Sanchez.

    With the new contract that was just singed by the NFL and the Players Association, team practices are dramatically curtailed during the season. No more 2-a-days. Only 14 padded practices throughout the entire season.

    Every coach in the NFL (including Rex) has already complained about how limited practice time is. Every minute on the practice field become critical.

    Regardless of how bad you may think our offense is (or was under Shotty) opposing defenses MUST spend time preparing to defend against our run game, our passing game, our roll outs, etc etc. And with Kerely a year better, a true threat opposite Holmes, Keller in his 'pro bowl' season, Powell tearing it up, McNight looking closer to the real deal, plus our defense that can keep you from scoring more than 15 pts, YOU BETTER PREPARE using the limited time you have.

    Enter the NY Jets with the Tim Tebow threat. A TRUE THREAT. Rex estimated teams will have to spend up to 30% of their time preparing for Tebow, who may or may not even run a single play. That's 30% LESS time to prepare for our traditional Sanchez offense. And teams that DONT spend 30% preparing to defend our Tebow packages? Rex said he'd run Tebow all day long until they can stop it.

    Sparano will come up with 10-15 Tebow plays that our offense will practice EVERY WEEK. Throughout the season our offense will get REAL GOOD at running those plays. Better as the season goes on. And teams with only 1 or 2 practices using their practice squad to 'simulate' Tebow will get blown out more and more.

    Plus Mark will face defenses that are 'under prepared' for our traditional offense.

    win-win.
     
  6. displacedfan

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    On the first part, most QB's are athletic enough if a DB tried to jack them up could avoid the big hit. Also, even though the QB is lined up at WR, I don't think the refs would allow it even though it's technically legal.

    The second part is what I'm interested in too. Sanchez hands off to Tebow who looks like he is running the option with Kerley/McKnight and then pitches to one who throws back to Sanchez. It's like a backyard play you draw up but you have ot respect Tebow running ,respecting him pitching. Your last owrry in the world is Sanchez doing antything once the ball is out of his hands.
     
  7. ajax

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    When Brad Smith was running the wildcat it was pretty hard for Sanchez to take a hit from DB @ WR position. Sanchez would line up close to the side line & wouldn't even run forward after ball is snapped.

    The DB would then have a choice to make:
    A: Abandon his position while rushing forward to crush a non-moving football player that has essentially give up on the play. You'd have to be quick because Sanchez could just run out of bounds & then draw a personal foul penalty with this hit.

    B: Hold his ground just in case the wildcat runs the ball in an area where DB can make the tackle and end the play.

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    Unless you're running a bounty system like the Saints, most coaches I think would prefer to play it safe & have their DB control that area of the field for potential tackles or fumble recoveries.
     
  8. Footballgod214

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    ^^^ Sanchez is bigger than most DBs and takes far more huge hits during a game than ANY DB. After being crushed by 300 pound rabid lineman all game, the last thing Mark is worried about is a DB flea. Yes, I know there's a vid clip of Mark shitting his pants when a DB fake-lunges at him, but I think it's just b/c that was the last thing Mark expected.
     
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    :eek:hmy:


    The quality of some of the posts around here.......
     
  10. Sloup

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    This just in: The 2012 Jets are the first NFL team that didn't want to reveal specific schematic information to other teams in the league.

    Give me a break. I don't care about your opinion concerning Tim Tebow; He's going to be put in to run the wildcat, and if you as a fan, reporter, or opponent want to know how it's going to work, you'll have to find out on game day.
     
  11. Demosthenes9

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    Wow, for the love of god, please tell me that you are joking with that.
     
  12. xmscott

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    Hope it doesnt look like this

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  13. Demosthenes9

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    Wildcat is a formation where a RB receives a direct snap and runs the ball or hands it off, usually on something like a jet sweep with a receiver coming in motion. There's very little threat of the RB passing the ball, but they might and it would be like a half back option pass that you see every once in a while.

    Tebow is a QB who can pass the ball effectively, though last year, he wasn't very consistent. Still, that threat is there. So if he's back in the shotgun, you don't know if he's going to run, pass, or hand the ball off.

    What gets confusing is that some of the plays that Tebow might run WOULD be "wildcat" plays if McKnight ran them from shotgun/direct snap.
     
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    Great post
     
  15. JUNJOBX2199

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    The secret about the secret Wild cat Practice shouldn't have gotten out and probably was leaked by the Jets!!!! you know, those attention whores of the NFL. :eek:hmy:
     
  16. displacedfan

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    No I emailed it to Sparano and that's why they shut down practice yesterday to try it out.

    I could sit and list every single thing the team and each player could do with a nice trick play, or I could just lump it together to show what each player is capable of. Kerley/Mcknight can run. Kerley, Tebow, Sanchez can throw. Tebow can also run. Sanchez, Kerley, McKnight, and Tebow? can catch. Tebow can run the option. Kerley too but not as well. Then of course Sanchez in the backfield with Tebow could mean a lot of different things or Tebow just being a normal FB to throw defenses off. Or I could just type al their skills into one silly play to show the extreme of what could happen with all these football players on the field together
     
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    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    I've been one of the few Tebow supporters who joined the forum before the trade and the main reason I supported this was that other defenses are going to have to spend far more time game planning for the wildcat now than they did when we had Brad Smith. Somehow though I never really realized that the fact that practice times have been cut basically in half will make this even more important.

    Also going back to ground and pound we needed another running back to compliment Greene. Instead of going out and getting another running back they got someone who can fill a lot of roles for a team with quite a few holes and no space to fix them. We got our back up QB our wildcat leader and someone to help the run game that struggled at times last season. That and the fact we have locker room issues and everyone listened all year to how great a presence Tebow is in the locker room.

    I really do love the Tebow move, so far at least, as long as he never starts at QB with a healthy Sanchez.
     
  18. bloke911

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    I bet they are using a wildcat package with Sanchez in so teams can't make package changes when they pull off Sanchez.
     
  19. bloke911

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    This is timeless.
     
  20. xxedge72x

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    Rex loves the wildcat. When Brad Smith ran it, he threw the ball maybe two or three times ever. Tomlinson and Kerley... maybe twice tops between the two of them.

    Tebow is interesting for the Jets because of what he does to defensive packages. Offenses are always looking for mismatches so whenever you have both Sanchez and Tebow in the huddle I can guarantee they're sitting on 3-4 plays at the same time, which will be decided based on the defensive personnel.

    If they both are in the huddle then you can either get a standard play, the wildcat, or a Tebow formation.

    Defenses will typically send personnel out with the idea of stopping one of those... not all three.
     

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