Why? Revis is the best in the game and the deep ball is Cromartie’s strength. I dont see how this signing really affects the “deep ball”, unless you plan TE’s out -running the safeties 30 yards down the seem for a pass...
Agreed. For opposing offenses, their best chances @ big passing plays are gonna be limited to: 1- Slot WR & TE with major (YAC) Yards After Catch. 2 - Lack of pass-rush leaving enough time for a TE to run a 15+ yard pattern. 3 - Screen passes that get RB to the edge quickly & take advantage of slow LB core & then hit secondary @ full speed. == Which is why I'm looking forward to Coples & Demario development. Next season Cro/Revis most likely still be best CB tandem against the deep ball & Coples & Demario will have an entire off-season under their belts. Hopefully next season: - Coples/Wilkerson will help minimize #2 lack of pass-rush with their development - Demario has speed to help with getting to the edge & help minimize #3 - exploited on edges.
I posted this in the big nickel thread, although yours is much better looking haha. How did you post the table like this? (for future reference)
Interesting that Smith actually rates higher on the percentage ranking. His total numbers you would expect to be higher with Revis and Cro at the corners - any Jet safety will be targeted more. So, in effect Landry and Bell are probably worse at pass coverage than Smith.
But at the same time, with Cro and Revis going 1 on 1, unlike the Skins and Fins corners last year, Smith likely had more help and less responsibilities than Bell or Landry.
Shall we also ignore the passing yards allowed? Eric Smith clearly allowed more ypc so lets not dismiss that simply because is percentage may be a little lower. And as stated above, because Revis and Cro were left on islands so often in coverage, Eric Smith’s responsibilities were much less and he had more help over the middle.
Total passing yards were higher, but he gave up less yards per attempt. Didn't you see that in the stats? And how do you know that Landry and Bell had less help over the middle? Tell the truth. You just pulled that out of your hiney hole. The number of attempts aimed at Smith showed he was targeted more because opposing Qb's did not want to throw at Revis and Cro. But when they DID go after Smith, he gave up less yardage per attempt than both Bell and Landry. This is not complicated.
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I dont know what stat you are looking at... Yards per attempt- Landry- 7.6 Bell- 8.3 Smith- 9.9 Yards per completion- Landry- 10.6 Bell- 12.8 Smith- 14.8 And I dont know who was getting more help statistically, but logically it makes sense that since Cro and Revis were left on an island more than most (and we didnt blitz as much as we normally do) Eric Smith would have more help than most other safeties in the league... Him being clearly last in those categories doesnt really make up for the high amount of attempts (theres really no correlation between them).
Bottom line, they were all ranked towards the bottom of the league in these coverage statistics. I think it's difficult to get too granular with the comparisons using just the numbers as they all played in different schemes, had varying responsibilities and varying levels of help from the pass rush.
Fair enough... Rex has to have a vision with having these prototypical SS’s on the roster, Im excited (and a little nervous) to see how it shapes out. Maybe Josh Bush will prove to be something, but thats probably being too hopeful. This position along with RT should be interesting to see how the CS can work with who is currently on the roster.
I watched the games. Opponents sent wideouts away from the middle of the field, and sent TE's there. I rarely saw Smith get help on coverage in that part of the field. Do you have any stats or independent observations that Bell and Landry got less help? The fact is that opponents playing the Jets were far more likely to avoid throwing to the players being covered by the starting corners. This meant Jet safeties were more likely to be targeted. As for the stats I was referring to the Qb rating. Qb's attacking Smith had less success (concededly not a great number, either - but the point was, as others have noted, Landry and Bell are not really better at coverage than Smith) than those attacking Bell and Landry.
Diving catch for the INT in a 7 on 7. At least he's working his ass off to produce and not taking it for granted.
Don't forget to mention it was against Tebow, who threw for like 3-4 picks already today. They also tweeted that Mark has been laser sharp on his passes.
We are also going to get torched in the middle of the field. E. Smith, Bell, and Landry are too slow.
Miami had the 3rd ranked rush defense, and Bell has been their leading (or one of) tackler for many of the last few years. Landry is one of the best rush defending safeties in the league period. If we can basically take away the rush easily being a top 5 rush defense team, with the potential to be #1 by a mile, then have the best corner taking away teams #1 wr, and a legit #2/3 corner. That really doesn't leave teams with much options. If we give up 150 yards to a TE a game (which is beyond awful and a worst case scenario), but are able to completely shut down their rushing games and #1 wrs. thats not so bad
