lol. Rex has stated it numerous times hes building the defense from back to front instead of vice versa. I dont really agree with it for this very reason. theres no true pass rusher on this team. I understand the logic of combating pro passing rules and teams moving to a spread attack. But the very premium he puts on DB's has left us with above average players in the front seven. (from a pass rushing perspective) Bart, Leonhard, and Douglass followed him here. he inherited the rest. Wilkerson and Ellis were brought in to offset and maintain losses of Ellis, and possibly Pouha (theyll have the tough decision of if they want to hand out a long term deal to a 30+ yr old NT. and please save the "he was a missionary his age is misleading" remarks) Rex is innovating, but hes also making chicken salad with chicken shit as far as rushing the passer goes. I'm getting a little tired of bringing everything but the kitchen sink and watching teams eat us alive in the middle and in the flats. hopefully they make it a point to get at least 1 young edge rusher who can free up more of the zone blitzes that worked so wonderfully in the playoffs last year. until then all I can tell you is get used to the DB blitzes cause until then theyre here to stay.
One issue I have with the "Jets lack true pass rusher" type of comment is that, from what I've seen so far, the true pass rusher is a luxury, not a must. Of course, if Jets had someone of Terrell Sugg's calibre at the OLB, that would greatly enhance the 'quality of life' for the defense. Just, the fact is that, in Ryan's pressure package, the heat comes not from one primary rusher, but from everywhere. One fell swoop, and BAM! the QB goes down. Ryan is known to prefer good secondaries over good line - and there's a very good reason for that. He doesn't send this CBs to the QB since the CBs are primarily locking down the WR 1/2 man-to-man, but after the CB1 and CB2, everyone is a fair game - if you watched the Patriots playoff game, you should have noticed one instance where Drew Coleman torpedoed himself into Brady. Now, the issue, if you ask me, is that pressure is not getting to the QB quick enough, but not necessarily because Jets were lacking that true pass rusher. It's more of an artifact along the DL, who couldn't open up the lane for the fire zone. Rex has seen this for two seasons, and finally addressed it last draft. We will have to see how all this pans out, but once Wilk and Kenrick gets rolling, the pass rush issue will die out.
Holy comma's batman. I hit a speed bump every three words. But I still agree that the need for an elite pass rusher is not 100% necessary as Rex still manages to bring pressure other ways. Would it help to have one? Of course it would, but it's not the most important thing.
please stop making sense. You're making the heads of all the SOJF hurt when you write this kind of stuff.
the issue with this is, two are rookies and have proven nothing the other is coming off of a major injury.
Call me a homer but; you have to just be excited about the quickness and the hands they all have shown in pre season by week 6 they will be usual D line
BT's going to sack Tony Romo six times tomorrow night, sign a contract extension on Monday, and then suck for the rest of the season. (...at least he's a good run defender)
It would be nice to have a pass rush when we go up against Brady and his ability to pick us apart all day. In the playoffs we threw him off by going to zone and he wasn't ready for it. This year he will be ready for whatever we do so putting some pressure on him would be great.
Touching Tom Brady once is the key. We all seen what happened when he got sacked in the last game. He was off and he kept looking over his shoulder every 4 seconds, even when we only rushed 3. I have a feeling zone will still be effective against the Patriots style of play even if Tom Brady is ready for it this time.
Lions laugh at you. Brady these days is more fragile than china doll. Hit him from behind a few times (even if that draws flags) and he's all rattled up for the night.
because we dont have a consistent pass rush generating pressure. i think 11 of our 40 sacks (or was it 38) came from DB's. we simply dont have elite talent with anyone to rush the passer. our sacks come from overloads mixed with stunts. usually involving at least 6 rushers. 1 of them being a DB. people complain cause if we had at least one OLB who could consistently move the pocket it would open up Rex's packages tenfold. sure we ranked 8th in sacks last year, also 4th amongst the 12 playoff teams. you would think we get constant pressure under those numbers. but numbers lie, and truth is there were plenty of times we rushed 6 and everyone was picked up and stood up. we also couldnt get off the field during 3rd and long to save our lives. another thing as a result of a "true" pass rush. like I said unless they invest in some talent at OLB (not Rex's MO, I dont see us doing this unless a BPA situation arises, OR Rex becomes satisfied with his DB situation this year. ) we will be seeing DB's blitz all the time.
so very true. And also complete opposite of our 2009 season. We had very low sack numbers, but were pressuring the hell out of QB's. We terrorized them. Then last year, our blitz schemes were figured out to an extent, and when it came time for somebody to win a 1 on 1 battle, we flat out couldnt in 2010. Thats a huge reason Jets fans claim we had no pass rush, and its the primary reason we couldnt get the hell off the field on third down.
The knock on the 40 sacks last year is that 11 of them came from the DBs, and the lion's share of the sacks came from the coverage. Very true. But the numbers don't lie, and neither does the result. As it stands, the biggest problem till last year was the DL, not the OLB. The DL 1. could not generate pass rushing lane, and 2. couldn't maintain the containment of the QB. For that reason, if the QB was mobile enough, he could burn the Jets D with relative ease. Remember how Ben was literally running for his life, but could always get the ball out before someone got to him? If Jets DL had contained Ben half the times, the big play numbers also go down by half. As I was bitching for the past few years, when Jets did send the extra man for the blitz, it still didn't generate pressure because the DL and the extra man would get tangled up at the LOS, producing a big clusterfuck. That's how Manning survived the AFCCG. If your DL cannot generate pass rushing lanes, it doesn't matter if you have Terrell Suggs - he'd get tangled up at the line as well.
