a catastrophe is something like a volcano, hurricane, tsunami, terrorist attack, idiiotic war --something that kills or maims thousands and ruins lives NOT a stupid NFL football game the Sun came up on Monday morning with no serious injuries to anybody after the Jets lost a stupid NFL football game to the Eagles BFD
I wish someone would make an articulate case for once (which I would be surprised could be done) how Smith was responsible for the loss to Philly. He was no more responsible than anyone else on the team.
I don't think it was his fault. But I think the constant misuse of Eric Smith was a big part of it. Or maybe just the constant USE of him.
I blame Tannenbaum, Rex and Woody for overrating the Jets talent. Hunter stinks, that's on Tannenbaum. The defense stinks and still can't cover a TE, that's on Rex. And I fully believe the rumor that the Jets signed no OL depth cause Woody didn't want to reach in his pocket anymore, citing the lack of PSL sales.
I still consider myself a supporter of Ryan, but this constant bleating by fans who don't know football that it is solely Smith's fault every time a TE makes a play against the Jets are tiresome. It is not the primary responsibility of the safety to cover a TE from the yard of scrimmage all the way down the field. And btw there are TWO safeties, anyway. Why does it seem here that some people start cursing at Smith everytime an opponent TE makes a catch? If the CS puts four linebackers out there, and the opponent passes the ball to the TE, there is ZERO CHANCE that Smith had primary responsibility for the TE. Particularly in zone coverage, the whole idea is that potential receivers are passed off as to who is responsible for covering the player when he moves down the field. That in effect means it can be difficult for the tv viewer to discern who is responsible if the coverage is blown. This should be obvious, yet too many posters here think it's all Smith's fault. Ryan says he's a big fan of Smith. He has been starting Smith all year. He and Pettine run the D, set the schemes on pass D. It's their responsibility, ulmtiately, not Smith's.
They keep leaving Smith covering TEs because we have no one else. Our LBs cant cover them and neither can our safeties. Can't blame the scheme when you don't have the pieces.
If the Eagles game was a catastrophe, what happens if we lose to the Giants? Tsunami? Earthquake? Avalanche? And then what happens if we lose to the Dolphins? Armageddon? Just trying to get a handle on what I'm going to need for supplies if this season doesn't end well.
if we lose ALL three the sun rises in the east the next morning and we go on to the draft in April It's only sports Nothing that happens anywhere is grounds for getting yourself crazy Relax read a good book I recommend 1Q84
Are you saying that we shouldn't super glue our self-worth to the success of a football team like Patriots fans do?
This is true. The Jet's pass defense has a big soft spot in the middle due mainly to the fact that neither Harris nor Scott are particularly good at dropping into coverage more than 10 yards down the field or so and that Eric Smith is not a good pass defender and Jim Leonhard was small. That's a shared responsibility for the weakness in the middle.
just saying that Sports teams, any sports teams are around number 600 in importance amongst the important things in life.
Certainly, a shared responsibility. But safeties typically in the league are playing back with primary zone coverage responsibility on the wideouts, like in the cover 2, where they have deep coverage. Of course if someone like the TE or RB makes a catch and gets through the LB's, the safeties have the responsibility to make the tackle, but that is, as I said, not their responsibility from the line of scrimmage out. I would not claim Smith is above average as a pass defender in single coverage. What safeties are? If a safety is above average in man coverage, he'd be a cornerback. The bottom line is this is nonsense to be placing not only primary (bad enough) but sole blame (learn the game!) on one of the two safeties when the Jet D gets burned by at TE.
This entire season of debacles falls on the shoulders of the FO and Rex Ryan. First off, how can someone plan to go into a season with Wayne Hunter and Matt Slauson as starters for an O-Line with a 3rd year QB at the helm. Neither of the 2 had been a starter (maybe a spot start) but now they were suddenly ready to start. And taking on other people's garbage has not helped either. Rex's thinking and Tannenbaum's arrogance have gotten us into this position. this is what happens when you give away draft pick after draft pick - you loose quality depth and more over the ability to develope quality starters. something has to change in the philosophy of the FO and how it operates, or this will just keep happening over and over. Rex likes all the shiny objects... unfortunately, we need to draft actual talent - not collect headcases.
I very much doubt that the Jets have no o-line depth because Woody is a cheapskate. He was willing to pay a bunch for Aso. Sure, Woody owns the Jets because he wants to make money; hence his shuffling the costs of the new stadium on to the fans. But he does seem to understand that a good team rakes in more $ than a bad team. The Jets don't hover around the salary floor, they hover around the salary cap. If the Jets have personnel issues, its because of bad policy coming out of the front office, not because Woody is cheap.
We have seen Tanny make moves that we all applaud. But... some of the better players he has gotten he got by bundling picks. This practice has left some holes in the roster, and the Jets do seem particular weak in bench strength in several areas. Some of hte older players don't have players being groomed to replace them, either. All GM's have contract-based decisions to make. I think that is what dictated a move like letting Smith go. Then something like the situation with Cotch seemed to be a hard nosed decision based on a medical assessment. I understand it. Other times a vet past his prime is let go when it is not clear he has nothing yet to offer. On that one I disagreed with letting Sean Ellis go, but I understand the thinking. But there are other things I don't understand. I don't understand the VD pick last year, and how it has been handled. He seems to make some progress, and then take three steps back, like against the Eagles. Plus he takes up a roster spot, and it really hurt when the Jets lost Turner in the pre-season, followed by Mangold's injury. Imo Tanny should have gotten a quality backup for the OL once Turner got hurt. And how do we feel about the change out of Edwards for Burress? Burress is better in the end zone, but Edwards imo better overall, and younger. #3 wideout is your most important offensive backup (after #2 Qb, but that's not in each game - I digress). How did the Mason pickup work out? The starting linebackers all have talent, but as a group they are slow. RB is another area where the roster doesn't really hang together. I get the love for LT, but he's declining, and Greene is not all that impressive, and hardly fits the bill as an every down back. They were unhappy enough with Pool that they were not going to bring him back without a pay cut, and he agreed to one, so he came back. I understand the reason for a move like that, but with Leonhard also coming back from a bad injury last year, it seemed a risky move to settle on those two with Smith as your safeties. Backup Qb. AYFKM? Hire Brunell as a coach if he's so good at that, but not taking up a roster spot. Overall, the roster seems kind of slow. But that's not all. Why would three years into a new HC's system, presumably getting players who fit that system, see so many penalties and mistakes? This team is relatively undisciplined. That is on the CS working with the FO, meaning not working very well. Yeah, I have to agree, it's on some combo of Tanny and Ryan. I am sorry to say, because the Jets are in deep with both those guys.
FIRE EVERYBODY!!! CATASTROPHE!!!! DEBACLE!!! FIRE EVERYBODY!!! back with more of the Joe Benigno show on the FAN after the flash
What's the point of being a fan and signing up for a sports site if you don't get passionate about your team? Im not saying kill yourself, but if everyone says "It's only a game...oh well" on every post, this site wouldn't have many healthy discussions would it?
agree, this season is a result of poor FO planning and execution, as well as Rex's emotional instability which translates into erratic play from one half to the next and one game to the next. Philly game felt like he lost the team. Frankly, he seems lost to me, and maybe to his team as well.
