I was never a fan of Eugene, however it's a completely different situation. Eugene had the number 3 and number 7 rushing team in the league when he was behind center, Eugene had an oline that gave him plenty of time to go through his progressions and he still choose the wrong receiver to throw the ball to. Eugene made the same mistakes 3 years into his career that he made when he was a rookie. Everyone is throwing Hack under the bus which at this point is fair, even on the drive where he threw the TD last night, he missed a wide open receiver running a post pattern and chose the more difficult throw, even though it was a good back shoulder throw. My issue with the Hack hate is that no QB drafted or signed is going to play well with this team as it is currently constructed. Do you think If Hack had a stout oline and a top ten rushing team he would look this raw or not show any improvement? Below average GM, Below average HC who fired 2/3rd of his staff and started fresh after 2 season, and no elite players on offense, what matchups are the jets going to use on offense that will get them an advantage?
I am not saying to cut Hack loose or that he can't improve in the future but he is not ready. You are clearly being defensive and basing your evaluation of him on what you hope he can be instead of trusting your lying eyes. Perhaps next year Hack will be our best QB but right now he isn't ready.
The who ? The What ? Are these fans wanting one of their own players to succeed ? Maybe it is a desperate need to have a FQB of our own that makes people wish for these things to come true. Besides all of that... It sounded like somebody who watched a QB throw a ball into the hands of a WR who then took a fearsome hit and the ball popped up and out straight to a Giant, unlucky for the Jets imo, hardly Hacks fault is it, the ball was clearly in hand, tbh I am not even sure how that gets marked down as an interception rather than a fumble ? If Anderson had ran a yard and then the ball gets knocked out like that then it would be labeled as a fumble would it not ? Of course in the rest of my post I do agree that the first interception was poor, so hardly as our previous poster said a "fan boy" which I guess is the same thing as you throwing out the Genobots comment.
Also saying all of that I can never understand why some folk find the need to and desire to constantly berate one of our own players, especially one so young, it sure is a huge puzzle to me anyway.
Perhaps if Hack had driven the team down the field for 3 TDs it would have been easier to overlook the INTs.
You need to look at the play again. Anderson was open that whole route, but Hack took too long to read, decipher, windup and deliver the ball. That INT was on Hack, not Anderson who got popped.
Maybe so but I was replying to somebody saying he had two pick sixes and I would say some people would never overlook anything bad that Hack does tbh.
Tbh I wasn't blaming Anderson either, he got a huge smack, maybe the pass was a bit slow getting there but hey it got there
I don't know what game some of these posters were watching but what I was able to learn from this match was that Hackenberg was pretty much running for his life out there. Can't blame him for rushing throws and staring down receivers while always keeping one eye out for Giant pass rushers. This OL is just plain atrocious. It wouldn't matter who the Jets throw out there at QB, they'll be castrated before the 1st quarter is over. It's going to be real tough watching this offense unless they find a solution real quick, not so much for putting points on the board, but for preventing the QB from going on the disabled list.
When the pressure is coming up the gut then sure. But there were a number of times the pressure came from the edge and hack either has to recognise its coming and call a protection or audible for a quick release. One prime example was when the OC team recognised that JPP was coming on every play so they called a nice play that would release the back out into the spot behind JPP and all Hack had to do was lob the ball over or around him for a nice chunk of yards and make a telling "you come at your own risk" statement. Instead he didn't call the right protection, had 2 giants come at him and had the ball tipped and incomplete. Hack has skils but they're not quite up to realtime situational play.
While we fans endure the brunt of it..these idiots in the front office deserve every single second of inept unwatchable offense they are forced to witness this season. Ignoring the offense for 10 years SHOULD lead to demise..which exactly what we're all gonna see. 2 fucking back to back Safeties my ass.Screw these incompetent hacks!
The thing is, when hack faced the same d petty faced he drove right down the field. Kinda discounts those 3tds a bit
Disagree completely. Last year I posted I thought Anderson was too slight of build to play in the NFL. Too many balls popping out of his hands. Yes, he has speed, but you also need strength. A QB can't be concerned about what is going to happen after he delivers the ball. This is the NFL, you make a catch, you're going to get hit. You have to hold on to the ball. Supposedly, he has worked on his strength this off-season, but it wasn't in evidence on that play.
Sackenberg is horrible. He looks like he does not belong in the league. They can't start him. It would be an insult.
Take up for Hack. He knew Anderson isn't Enunwa, waited too late, and almost got Andersons head tore off. It is on Hack. This fan support for this guy is so much like Nacho when he was here. It's almost desperate.
After watching last night, it's safe to say Hack won't be a starter at any point and time. Next year the Jets have to fix this offense. Might require a new hc and gm. Not sure if I trust Macs judgement in terms of qbs and Bowles ability to develop them
I don't know if you are referring to me JH but I'm not being defensive, I'm looking at a team that has huge holes on offense, and it's fan base is skewering the rookie QB for not getting it done. The flaws are there, but so are the positives, what the jets need is the correct CS to develope a QB, maybe Morton is the guy that will do that as the season progresses, maybe not. Because It's a new offensive scheme, and its preseason, I'm going to try and hold back my opinions of this team until the regular season when the starters start building chemistry. It may surprise us all and turn out for the better when these guys are not thinking their way through every play and it becomes automatic.
I am not as down on Hackenberg as others are. He just played his first time against Starting defenses in the NFL (Lions and Giants) and he handled himself okay. He is surrounded by trash, so he is not ever going to light it up in 2017. He seems to have a good grasp of the offense. He did not let the bad plays get to him and kept on trucking. Came on the field cold and led a TD drive last night. The potential is clearly still there. I personally, would not start him now though. 1. He is not ready. 2. He is set up to fail with this O-line and lack of weapons around him. Eventually he will get in the starting line up, but I am fine with McCown taking the hits til then.
