Thats fine if you want to look at it that way. But i still enjoy watching my Yankeeography DVDs etc,and going to monument park. To me thats part of Yankee baseball. If we didn't have that storied history,i wouldn't have those things to include in my love for my team. Maybe when you guys get past looking at strike 3 go by in the 9th,you'll be on your way to having a history to enjoy too.
Oh yeah but I get like that too, I am a fan of the game maybe even moreso than I am a fan of the Mets. As much as I hate the Yankees I have to admit that they are good for the game. They represent everything most fans hate in a franchise. They are good, they play in New York, they have arrogant and in alot of times ridiculous bandwagon fans, they have had many of the games greats and the current greats. I can only speak for myself because this is what I experience, as a Met fan you have to deal with the Yankees being in the spotlight. Even when the Mets are the better team it's the Yankees getting the all the attention. It's no different than the Jets and Giants, I don't think anybody will argue that the Jets have been the better team since the Giants debacle in the SB yet they are the "marque" team in NY. I don't agree with it or understand it but that's the way it is. My hatred might be different if I wasn't a Mets fan, if I was say an Astros fan it might be different, in fact I can almost guaruntee you it would be. It has nothing to do with jealousy or penis envy at least in my case. In my mind the Mets never have and never will get the respect they deserve from members of the media. My hatred also stems from the arrogance, not so much different than that of the Duke Blue Devils. It's not so much that they ae succesful, it's the arrogance of the team and the fans. The 49ers and Cowboys and Steelers are all very succesful yet I don't hate any of them. The Montreal Canadians are succesful as are the Celtics yet I don't hate them.
Everyone here keeps calling the Yankees the most hated team,but i don't think any fans,even Bostons hate them as much as the Met fans do. I think it comes from the things you said here. like being in the same city and having to see the Yankees get the spotlight. But that also does happen with the team that wins more championships. In 86-87 the Mets got the papers. I remember it. The Yankees won 4 series in 5 years and that hasn't worn off yet. Since there are a number of players here that were on those teams,they are expected to do it again each year. If they don't win for a few more years and those guys start retiring and at the same time the Mets are them more successful franchise at the time,it will change. Thats just the way it goes,and i cant say i see anything wrong about that.
^Ok but when M&M mentions other teams with JUST AS much storied history as the Yankees, that's a total joke. Nobody is that naive to think that, and that's the only reason why I mentioned the pennants and World Series, because NOBODY has a storied franchise such as the Yankees.
I can respect your (IMO) troll posts a lot more after reading this. I was throwing you in with Shade and davecrazy before, but if it weren't for them already making threads unbearable, I don't think I ever would have had a problem with your posts. You have a normal, fair hatred for the Yankees. Like I do for teams like the Red Sox, or Patriots/Dolphins/Bills. That's fair. However, as has been said, guys like Shade and davecrazy come into legit threads and simply troll. That's wrong, and if you wanted to be a decent person about it, you'd look at it objectively and agree. They do their best to totally trash threads, and never say a word that has any relevance to the conversation. Talking smack is one thing, throwing purposeful one-liners out for the sole purpose of sparking an argument is defined as trolling. It's the difference between saying: "The Yankees suck. Losing a series to Tampa Bay is total suckage." And: "Arod kisses Jeter under the bleachers."
To be perfectly honest I get a kick out what dave and Shade do but if I was a fan of the Yanks I could see how it would be upsetting. You do have to admit though that the Yankees performace in April was worthy of everything that was said about them. If not for A Rod the team might not have won a game. They would have been the 88 Orioles. I love baseball, next to CBB it's my favorite sport. Half the stuff I post about you guys is just my emotions getting involved. My hatred hinges on disrespect which sometimes is easy to do when you get so emotional. Maybe it's because I know and meet so many Yankee fans. Case in point, I was at a bar in Idaho last night and I as watching sportscenter and I met a guy who has never been to NY and told me he was a Yankee fan. How can this be? Granted we only have two single A short season teams in the state none of which have been affiliated with any NY team in my lifetime but yet a Yankee fan? I could see Mariners or even Twins as before the Rockies they were the 2 closest. I gave him the test and asked him to name 1 Yankee 1st baseman in the 80's and he couldn't. Why do I get pissed off? Crap like that.... Now I have always felt that NY would make the playoffs but I'm starting to think the AL East will only get one team. Here is my logic. NY and Boston will beat each other up but Baltimore, TB and Toronto (once they get healthy) will compete with Boston and NY. Cleveland and Detroit will beat on each other but the White Sox. Twins and Royals will not be as competitive as the AL East teams. I don't like this because in the Central you have the WS who try to begood but they just aren't , I can live with that, the Twins seem to be a 2nd half team but they aren't that good this year and the Royals are just a tax rightoff. At the risk of sounding like a whiner I don't think this is fair for NY and Boston. They get 7 games against the Royals while Cle and Det get 19. That's 12 extra games against a Farm Club and it could mean the difference between a NY/Boston ALCS or a Cle/Boston ALCS
And this post makes me respect you like I used to before I thought you were just trolling. (Well, except the part about liking what shade and dave do...) Anyway, we totally agree. There are far too many "Yankee" fans. I quoted it because they aren't fans. They're posers. By the same token, when I was in junior high, I was just starting to like football. At the time, I liked the Raiders, because Bo Jackson was playing there, and I was totally intrigued by a guy who could play two sports that I enjoyed. I wore the black and silver everywhere. Shirts, caps, even a jacket. This was at a time when Public Enemy was big, so they were wearing Raiders gear. I'd get questioned all the time about the Raiders. People would alwats pop that question on me, "Name one guy on the Raiders except Bo Jackson." So I did. I'd name 4 or 5 guys, and shut them up quick. I always figured, if you're a fan, then you're a fan, and you had better be able to back it up. Of course it's years later, and I despise the Faiders almost as much as the entire AFCE save for the Jets. But that's neither here nor there. So I do understand your point there. That's why I constantly say I despise the 96ers. I think you're absolutely right about the AL this year. The East is sending one team, and I greatly fear that team is the Sox. But that's baseball. Is it fair? How can I say? The Yankees and Red Sox have the two highest payrolls in the sport. Is that fair? If I had to give an honest answer for both, they'd both be no, but that's the state of the game. In all fairness, Detroit and Minny are good teams, and deserve to make it as much as the Yankees and Sox. Stuff happens. You have to beat everyone, regardless of the competition level. If you can't, you don't play in October. Considering the Yankees are having trouble against everyone, they aren't playing like they deserve a post-season appearance this year. Anyway, good post overall. (Again, except for liking the shade and dave posts. They aren't even posts saying simply "The Yankees suck." It's the same recycled jokes about "classiness" or "Jeter's homosexuality." Neither is relevant to the conversations, and that makes them troll posts. You laugh when the Yankees lose. That's fair. I don't like it, but it's fair. And at least you make an effort to say something beyond that. That's a lot better than what guys like them crap across their keyboards.)
History is about more than pennants. There's a great article in the NY Times today about Roger Connor, the home run champ before Babe Ruth, who played for the NY Giants. Don't the Giants, who have boasted all time greats from Connor to McCovey to Mays to Bonds, have just as interesting a history?
I think that's a fair point just as the Dodgers both Brooklyn and LA versions have won series in both places have had a host of greats starting with guys like Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider, Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella, Koufax, Drysdale through Orel Hershiser, Fernando, Gibson, to Piazza, to the next generation of Dodger greats in Martin, LaRoche, Furcal, Broxton and Chad Billingsly. I also think most people will agree that winning the WS in todays game is alot different than winning in the 40's through the early 80's. The game has changed so much with the influx of latin players, Asian layers and free agency. Also expansion has made this very difficult. I'd say the modern era of baseball really didn't begin until the early 80's.
Interesting? Yes,,definetly. as much? I don't think so. Every new year you root for your team,your biggest hope and the ultimate goal is to win the championship. The Yankees have done it much more than any team. So to those who haven't even come close it's always "theres more to it than that".
i have lived in new york my whole life except for this year, and i seen many yankee and met fans, and some of you might think im stupid for saying this but im only typing facts.... out of all the metfans i have seen they either are weird looking, depressed looking or smell real bad... yankee fans i see are looking happy, have lots of money, or look like a healthy average family. this is from my observations... not making it up. ask john rocker.
Funny when I drive past the methadone clinic, I see most drug addict losers with a colored Yankee hat.
well as you know the yankee logo is a world wide known logo, some people just buy it for the recognition, or have it because it was a gift, i have asked people in the train about baseball and who are their favorite team while they wear a yankee hat and they say they dont watch baseball. so the yankees make money from people who dont watch the game..... cash rules everything around me cream git the money dolla dolla bill yall.
Whatever, the Yanks are not making any more money off the crotch scratching crack whores in the subway stations. The do represent the neighborhood and the true spirit of the Yankee fans though.
