Matt Jones averaged more yards per game last year than any WR on our roster including Laveranues Coles. I'm not saying he's great, but his addition to our roster would be an upgrade any way you look at it. I'd rather get a possible flame-out on the cheap than spend a 1st and 4th for one as I consider MJ and BM to have an equal chance of getting suspended for the year in any given year. You weren't saying anything even close to the same thing.
If I had to choose... Brandon Marshall has excellent hands, runs great routes, gets excellent separation and gets fantastic YAC. Matt Jones can't run routes, has good hands, can't separate, and has average YAC. Both headcases. If I have to choose, I'd overspend to Marshall.
Without defenses respecting what we have running down field you can forget about being successful in the smash mouth game Rex wants to employ.
So basically our primary options are a cokehead who sucks who could be suspended at any moment and a girfriendbeating drunkard w/a bad hip who is good but could be suspended at any moment?
Trading for a WR would be a horrible move at this point, IMO. 1) We're not a superbowl contender and that move wouldn't be the difference. 2) We have no depth aside from maybe the RB and DB positions. This is because we've been trading picks to acquire top talent. We now have nice starting talent, but December and January requires solid depth in the NFL. We need to start stockpiling picks and building depth! 3) We have a talented young receiver in Clowney who has been lighting up the preseason for 2 years now. He can stretch the defense and force the safeties to be honest. If he's not our #2 receiver I'll be pissed. 4) This is a run first team with a very questionable QB situation. 5) Any WR brought in at this point would need to learn a new offense. 6) We need to pay our guys first. Leon, Mangold, D'Brick, and Sheppard will be due a big bonus next year if we keep him. All this talk about a WR seems silly to me. It would be a luxury move we simply cannot afford.
We definitely need to build depth but after this year, there's a decent possibility we target a WR in the 1st round of 2010 draft. Would you rather have a rookie WR who takes a couple of years to develop and a 4th round pick or a 25 year old elite WR minus a 4th round pick? Now of course that's speculation based on us going receiver early in next's years draft but I honestly can't see us NOT going WR in the first 2 rounds. Does anyone know which WR's are going to be free agents next off season?
Who's to say we would draft a WR in the first round? First and foremost we should be looking at d-line IMO. Tanny still hasn't drafted a single 3-4 d-lineman since we switched back in '06. Every one of our starters on d-line is 30 or older. Jenx - 30, Ellis and Douglas - 32. If Sanchez is the real deal he will make the receivers look better. Who knows, maybe Clowney can be a big time player for us.
I agree. I think the Jets need to stick with what they have at WR, play good defense, and take advantage of a solid running game. There's really no need to go out and waste good money / draft picks for a guy like B. Marshall at this late stage. Besides, he's a major headcase, and would likely only cause disruption upon his arrival. I don't think you guys need / want that kind of player in NY. Just my opinion... ~BK~
That would be great but I don't think we can count on that happenning. I mean who knows maybe Marcus henry can be a big time player for us as well....
That's nice, but Clowney has the top end speed that defenses will fear and respect if he can be consistent with his hands and routes. He also has a track record now of making big plays in preseason. What has Henry, or any other WR we have done to give us any real hope? And no, you can't count on it happening, but whether we have a top WR or not isn't going to be the difference in whether or not we're a contender this season.
It doesn't matter if we are targeting a WR with a first rounder next year(chances are we are but who knows by then) the chances are slim that we will get a player that can come in and be a top 5 player at his position right out of the gate. Why couldn't we draft a Dlineman with a second round pick while filling a huge need with a young player that is already top 5 at his position with a first?
I agree. Maybe in the offseason this would have made sense, but its too late now and that cash could be better spent with some much needed depth. Its not exactly exciting, but its what we need. Clearly we have a few WRs that aren't going to be starting material and we kind of know who they are. I think we'll be fine with Clowney and Cotchery, with Stuckey thrown in here and there, and don't forget we are fortunate to have a TE who is pretty much like a good WR anyway. To me, Stuckey and Clowney have switched positions on the depth chart from the beginning of camp. Clowney has clearly earned the #2 spot, but he certainly could lose it after a few regular season games, so who knows. The other receivers should either be released or serve as backups. It makes sense to pay the proven Jets first unless we have an emergency situation (Clowney and Stuckey both die in a freak twittering accident). Like it or not, this is not a year where we should go all out and try to win now (i.e. Vikings). Our window to win it all isn't closing, its just opening. No need to mortgage the future for a WR that won't make the difference now. Can you honestly say we would have played a whole lot better in the first quarter last night if we had Marshall? I doubt it.
First off, Marshall is hardly without baggage. The guy is a tremendous talent, but seems to be a r'tard. He's been in and out of the police blotter, been suspended by Goodell, and reports say he hasn't even begun to learn the new offense in Denver. He is definitely a top talent, but it's not as clean cut as just getting a top talent for a #1 pick. One misstep and he could miss a year to suspension. Your theory is OK with me on the surface, but it's not like we haven't been doing this repeatedly. If we hadn't been trading away picks all along, I'd say fine go ahead, but at what point to you draw the line? After Marshall I'm sure there'd be another big name player that sounds nice to trade for. I'm on board with the theory that WR isn't that important of a position.
