Should Schottenheimer be fired?

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Should Brian Schottenheimer be fired as Offensive Coordinator?

  1. Yes - it is his fault the Jets offense is putrid.

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  2. No - it is not his fault, it is Sanchez and the players.

    84 vote(s)
    29.1%
  3. Maybe - I would like to give him another couple games at least.

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  1. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    You forgot the Raiders game a few years ago too.
     
  2. Dirty6Sanchez

    Dirty6Sanchez Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why everyone is giving Sanchez so much shit...

    I mean sure he missed a few throws, but one INT was complete and utter BS, the other was not his fault, the receiver got mugged. Factor in the 7 or whatever drops that occurred and he MAYBE should have had one INT. If those shitty calls dont stall three of our drives who knows what could have happened? There were enough throws hitting receivers on the hands/in the chest where you simply cannot blame the quarterback.
     
  3. Deathstroke

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    Didn't Mark call 2 out of the 3 touchdowns we scored in the preseason and didn't Mark look over to Schotty on Hard Knocks and say: "This is Easy, you suck Schotty" think that has any stock at all?

    I don't like Schotty and hope we replace him with Callahan but it's either hit or miss with him, he either looks like a complete idiot or a complete genius, he's inconsistant and gets to cute that's all it is. He needs to stop being so damn predictable and be more deceptive I know the strategy is Ground and Pound but at the very least, don't be so obvious with it. And run it down their throats if hey have a weak run defense not chuck it down the field
     
  4. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Look. This is what I hate about today's game. Ok. Receivers dropped the ball. Refs fucked us with two bullshit INT calls (I think the first one was legit.) But should that matter?

    Why do we play with the 'element' in the first place? We all KNOW what happens to the passing game when the wind blows hard. This is when we turn to the running game. Specifically, we ram it down their throat. In that regard, Shonn Greene picked up a mere 6 carries all game. He should have been ramming the defense in the first half. Instead, Jets offense chugs the ball ALL FUCKING GAME. Naturally, Sanchez plays like shit. Receivers drop passes. Simply brilliant, if you ask me. It's not even like Jets were facing the Williams wall either. Packers DL was pretty much decimated with injury - and what do the Jets offense do to capitalize it? Absolutely fucking nothing. Just like they fucked it up real hard at Oakland a few years ago. If that's not the fault of OC, I don't know whose fault it is.
     
  5. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    Being ranked #24 in offense (and we're surely going down a spot or two after this game), isn't based on one play a game. It isn't just the playcalling, the offense simply hasn't progressed in a year where Sanchez has gotten better. Schotty has been a bad coach all around period.
     
  6. Brien O'Ken

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    I just didn't understand throwing it downfield on 3rd and 8 in the last drive. Incompletion on a low-percentage pass play gave us 4th and 8 with very little chance to convert. If we run or do a short high-percentage pass play, at least it's a manageable 4th down to make. Maybe it was Sanchez' choice to throw downfield but that option shouldn't have even existed. Every WR should have run short routes.
     
  7. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    I believe that it's his fault but there is no way you can fire him in the middle of the season. Jets they are 5-2, still high up in the AFC and although it didn't look like it today, the offense is much better than last year.
    That being said, the playcalling has been pretty putrid lately. They just seem like they are trying too hard to get everyone involved rather than sticking with what works. There were no remnants of the "ground and pound" offense being promised in the offseaon. They ran well IMO but just started passing it everywhere even after it was clear that Sanchez and the receivers were not on the same page.
    Also, I find the lack of screens disturbing.
     
  8. AJayJay

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    Agreed, I would fire Schotty or anyone else mid-season on this team but what you can do is take over play-calling or dumb down the system for himself instead of Sanchez and the defensive backs. He really has been fucking horrible lately.

    The ground and pound attack until they stack the fucking box that you hit em with the play-action to Keller or Edwards that we saw last post-season and earlier on this season. That's Rex Ryans mentality and thats what we need to do. Enough of this cutesy bullshit Schotty.

    I agree on the screens too, it seems like when we run them to L.T. he always finds some success with it and makes something outta it. I don't want him to go to overboard with em but dial em up some more please.
     
  9. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    i mostly agree with you. but, we could have run the ball more.
    the receivers dropping that many balls is inexcusable!
     
  10. SettlerDawg

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    24th? Where are you getting this from? We were 4th in points per game and 17th in yards per game before the Packers. Last year, we were 17th in points per game and 20th in yards per game. The Jets will finally play some crappy teams in the next 4 weeks. Expect to see the offense in the top 10 in points per game after that stretch. The offense has clearly progressed, as it is not an ultra-simple offense anymore.
     
  11. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    Did you even watch the game? The offense is as basic as they come. If the offense needs to be dumbed down further for Sanchez, then clearly he is not an NFL quarterback.

    Oh btw, they did ground and pound until Green bay stacked the box. They did play-action once the box was stacked.
     
  12. SettlerDawg

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    Do you guys even read the other posts in the thread? First of all, there was very little wind at the game. It was a beautiful day. Second, Green Bay stacked the box and played press coverage. This led to our running backs getting stuffed. LT and Greene both had under 4 yards per carry. Thus, we have no choice but to pass the ball. If you take a look at the majority of games over the last year and a half, you would realize that this has been the norm with the Jets.
     
  13. GreenMatt14

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    Last time I checked you don't fire OC half way through a season when you have a record of 5-2, omg omg we lost a game, fire them all! blow it up! trade sanchez!
     
  14. Prince of Thieves

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    I used to defend this man. However, today, he called an atrocious game. There's nothing more to it than that. I'm done with him.
     
  15. AbdulSalam

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    What a horrible game. Glad to be recovering from surgery so that I didn't shell out $150 to sit there watching this dreck. The primary culprits for the Jets failures were poor execution on the part of receivers & Sanchez and poor offensive preparation by schotty and poor play calling by Schotty.

    To come out after a bye and completely fail to score a point is truly embarrassing and a BS way to treat your fans. Schotty is the OC, scoring points is his responsibility and he utterly failed. He failed to prepare a successful game plan, failed to be creative in his play calling, failed to take advantage of the packer's defensive weaknesses, failed to be prepared for the packer's obvious defensive game plan of loading the box and he failed to be smart in the 4th Q when clever play calling could have helped the Jets to win the football game.

    Of course the receivers were lousy w/dropped balls and of course Sanchez was average at best - but still some of the blame for this lousy offense has to be placed on the person who is in charge of the lousy offense - the offensive coordinator. I am pretty surprised that any thinking fan would seriously disagree with this rather obvious point. The team failed to score a point today coming out of a bye. Of Course the Offensive Coordinator bears responsibility for such a poor performance.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He called a horrible game yesterday, he's too in love w/ the stupid trick plays but if our WRs could catch the damn ball we'd have had no problem winning that game. There's alto of blame to spread around and brian deserves his share.
     
  17. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Penalties and dropped passes cost us the game yesterday more than play calling.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The playcalling was as bad as I have seen in a while, I'm so sick of the trick plays but if our guys could catch we would have won. Santonio had a TD on that 3rd down play if he holds on to the ball. Jerricho had 2-3 key drops in the 4th which was very unlike him.
     
  19. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    His playcalling has always been questionable, but the reason we lost yesterday was execution. When you have as many drops as we did and as many costly penalties as we did I don't care what the play calling is, you're just not going to win the game.
     
  20. nyjunc

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    I like him as an OC, my main problem is he does call too many trick plays but he went above and beyond that yesterday. It's just insane the amount of trick plays we ran.
     

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