Our players executed horribly on some plays that should have been big gains. So many drops by J CO and that brutal one by Greene when he had the whole field to run. Mark missing a wide open Braylon that would have gone for a td.
Schotty needs to put some stickup or crazy glue on the receivers' hands. Receivers dropping balls & then can't hold on when they do make the catch. If Schotty develops a play for Cotchery to be open & receive the pass & Cotchery can't catch the damn ball ... let's fire Schotty?! Should the play be designed for Sanchez to run down field & hand the ball to Cotchery??
I dislike Schotty as much as the next guy. I have many arguments with Jets fans about whether Sanchez or Schotty is the source of the Jets offensive shortcomings. In my opinion, it is Schotty. Bad play calling is his fault, not Sanchez's. The double reverse today against the Packers is a pure example of this. There are plenty of other examples in both passing and running games. Why the hell did he call a run against the Broncos on 3rd and 8 on their 20 early in the game? That was retarded. But, I think this is a conversation that MUST wait until the end of the year. Not now. An offensive coordinator with all of these weapons must score 20+ points a game, else, he must go. We must be patient, even if it means suffering through games like today. The alternative is an offense in complete (instead of partial) disarray for at least three weeks. Many of the calls to fire him mid-season are driven by our own fears that this is an "all-in" year for the Jets. It is not if you believe that Sanchez has better years ahead of him. A dome game next week will give the passing game a boost heading into Cleveland, which should be a similar challenge for our warm weather loving quarterback. Man, I wish the New Meadowlands stadium was a dome.
I wish Schottenheimer leaves this team...He is killing me with his playcalling every week..>Always something that pisses me off
I cant believe this thread. Did schottenheimer drop all those passes? Is shotty responsible for sanchez's awful play today? That game would have been a win if a couple of those passes werent dropped and this conversation wouldnt exist. Your the same people who wanted Jerry Manuel fired. Quit looking for a scapegoat, the jets came out flat (defense played good) and lost the game as a team. Stop this nonsense.
I have news for you. Any offensive coordinator is going to make calls over the course of a game that don't work and you will be pissed off. Go to any team's message board in the entire NFL after a loss and I guarantee someone will be bitching about the awful play calling.
Exactly, plus the running game was going nowhere, sanchez couldnt throw the ball, shotty started digging towards the end of the game to find something that would work, just like any OC would do. This thread is nonsense and it happens everytime we lose a game.
You picked out one play per game, and used that as your basis for evaluating Schotty. That doesn't make any sense. Every team in the league runs reverses or double reverses. Why aren't you complaining about the unconventional plays that have worked very well for the Jets throughout the season? The Brad Smith packages, the unbalanced line, the reverses that have worked... why aren't you complaining about them? Every team in the league has run on 3rd and long. Of the top of my head, LT picked up a 1st down on a 3rd and long against the Vikings a few weeks ago. Why aren't you complaining about that play? You're only complaining because a play didn't get a good chunk of yardage or a first down. When these same plays get good yardage, you conveniently forget that we ran these plays. Not every play is going to work. You have to look at the overall % of plays that have worked well, how appropriate each play was considering the situation, and most importantly, how the players executed the plays. IMHO, Schotty's game planning is one of the better in this league. He preaches versatility to throw defenses off guard (although right now, we are running a very simplified form of his offense). Right now, people should be questioning Schotty's ability to develop and manage quarterbacks. His play-calling has been fine.
The only fucked up thing about today's gameplan was the pass/run ratio. Outside of that the players didn't execute. Sanchez and Cotchery in particular were awful today with fail contributions coming from Holmes, Mangold, and Keller.
Schotty's ability to develop and management quarterbacks is inseparably related to his play calling. His confidence (or lack thereof) in Sanchez is demonstrated by that. He goes to the wildcat when Sanchez makes a bad play routinely. IMHO, Schotty's play calling has hurt Sanchez's growth. Even averaging 5 yds per carry, it's statistically unlikely to get a first down on 3rd and 8. At that point in the Denver, the FG was a given and he needed to stay aggressive, and he didn't. If it's 3rd and long at the 50, it's a different story. We can list plays where Schotty has made terrible calls this season. It will be a long list. Has he done good things? Sure, but there are too many offensive passing weapons to warrant the 27th best passing offensive in the league. Sanchez, aside from the Denver game, is far less to blame for this than a coordinator who relies on "simplified" passing play calls using his inexperienced QB as an excuse rather than his own lack of creativity throwing the ball down the field.
This is Schotty's 5 year as the OC of the JETS. He's gotten more & more weapons to play with - Keller, Edwards, LT, Greene, & Santonio Holmes. 1 of the best O-lines in football. If it hasnt gotten better & more consistently positive by now, its not going to get that much better. Fire him now & replace him w/Bill Callahan who spent 4 seasons as the OC for the Raiders before he became head coach.
If there's anything consistent with Schotty's offense, that is the consistent mediocrity throughout the past 4 years. This year's excuse would be sophomore slump from Sanchez. Last year, it was QB inconsistency and rookie QB. (And Ben in Pittsburgh as a rookie didn't do as horribly as Sanchez did, with similar set-up, if I have to remind you.) Before that, it was "he never had same QB consistently." We will have to see this offense sputter next year till the fanbase finally realizes that Schotty needs to go.
Two horribly called games to mind for me, the Buffalo game last year when Sanchez threw 5 ints against the worst run defense in league at the time. We came out chucking when we should we should ran them off the field. Then there is this game, GB with a depleted DL yet when we ran cute plays. Cute plays? Yeah instead of lining up and smash them in the mouth we're shifting and all that bullshit. Sanchez threw over twenty times in the first half, similar to the Denver game this year. This is what we do when we are facing an opponent who's run D is battered or sucks to high hell. Shotty is soooo smart he's constantly outsmarting himself.
