I think the bolded part is a pretty big assumption. Don't think it's out of the question that it may have been part of hiring Sporano was to also give Haley an interview as they clearly were entertaining the idea of working together. Could be that Rex Didn't want Haley,.. or at least not in the capacity that Haley was looking for.
So, the Jet FO set up an interview with Haley despite the "fact" that Ryan didn't want him? I have to say you are not very good at this logical deduction thing. Either Ryan had a say in interviewing Haley, or he did not. I would say if he did not, that says something far more negative than if he did and Haley merely turned them down.
When you find yourself going deeper into a hole you don't want to be in, the first thing to do is stop digging, right? Here is what you said earlier: "This coaching staff is the one Rex wants" It seems clear to me that if he wanted Haley, and Haley turned down the Jets, that this is not the coaching staff Rex wanted. This is not a semantic game. The Jets wanted Sparano, but also wanted Haley. Why? Because Sparano would handle the rushing game, and Haley the passing game. They offered a position to Sparano, then interviewed Haley, then Haley turned them down. The concern is they are settling for Sparano running the passing game, too. How much that should be a concern, if at all, is a matter of opinion. But we can't say that what Ryan wanted all along was to have Sparano run the whole O. If they and he did, they would never have interviewed Haley at all.
DVM. Also, I acknowledged you are educated so you can stop with the pettiness. I brought it up is because you like to sprinkle Latin everywhere. Save all of this for someone who actually warrants a Big Blocker tug job. I'm certainly not 'drive by', I check nearly every day. I just usually like to read other peoples' opinions. I'm sure you've noticed I've been here a while. Just because I don't like to shoot the bull about every retarded, half thought out article that comes out between February and August doesn't make my posts less viable. Never said you did say the offense would suck without Schotty. For someone looking for logic holes you really aren't reading properly. I said you have been veiling it because you are of the opinion that Sanchez is at least below average and will probably continue to be so. Re my post to the Bills fan. I have nothing to be concerned about with Sparano in his first offseason because he is inexperienced. Every OC has to design his first playbook. Yes, he was not able to keep his job in Miami. He still comes in backed by the likes of Coughlin and Parcells as a good coach. And I was highlighting that it's not like we are going from someone who had a good track record and then just fell out of favor. He was arguing that Sparano may not be better than Schotty but they are essentially starting from the same spot: from scratch. The lack of experience is nothing new over the course of the last two OCs, the subjects of comparison. Are you this arrogant and overly logical with the actual people in your life? On topic, Greene will go as the offensive line goes. He does not have the quick feet requisite of a back who may change a play without a hole to run through.
I never said it was a fact that Ryan didn't want Haley. I said it was possible that the Haley interview was something Sparano brought with him, Ie/ you hired me and I'd like to bring this guy with me, can you interview him. Very possible that Ryan said this is the position i can give you and this is our offensive philosophy and Haley didn't fit. Seriously, Do you even pretend to read the posts you argue with? Or do you just see a response and immediately blast whoever posted it for obviously not being as smart as you are. If you're trying to entrench the idea that you are in fact a huge d-bag who wants to belittle people and start fights.. you're doing a great job. Try adding something to a thread without insulting every person you interact with. You might find you enjoy life a little bit more. As of right now I'm pretty sure there are a great number of people on this board that view you as an A$$.
How did this thread turn into an argument on coordinators? I thought this was about Greene’s ability as a runner... Oh well.
It seems more likely that Haley got a better offer. Which would an offensive minded ex-HC prefer? OC for the Pittsburgh Stillers working with Ben Roethlisberger or designing a passing offense for Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow?
/innerBigBlocker Stop being Illogical. You've obviously never completed highschool /innerBigBlocker, lol Someone brought up that Greene will be a better runner under Sporano then he was Under Shotty due to the different philosophies play calling.
Lol are you kidding me. Just because he didn't get everyone he wants here does not mean that this is his coaching staff that he picked and wants. I'm sure there are a ton of coaches around the league that Rex would love to have part of his staff. The point is that for better or worse the ones here are ones he wanted here. There are no more leftovers from when he got here. I know you just love to argue but its really not that hard to understand.
Greene will likely get more carries under Sparano because Sparano will keep plugging away at the run, so he might also get more yards. I don't see his YPC going up.
Stop being a whiney little you know what. There is a substantive point here that you are ignoring. The Jets, and Ryan, did not get the coaching staff they wanted, because they wanted to have Haley here, and he turned them down. Geez the estrogen level here among you, the drive by poster and the newbie is way too high. Beyond that, there is a huge question whether Sparano will upgrade the OC position. Yeah, I know and have said all along, that remains to be seen. But seeing as how we are in the off season, and it started out with the Jets signing Sparano and then trying to get Haley as well, with Haley turning them down, it is ridiculous for you to assert that Ryan got the coaching staff he wanted. You can go on insisting you were not wrong, but I have every right to come on here and point out that the Haley situation shows you are wrong.
Don't be butthurt because you misinterpreted what I was saying or my wording was confusing. This coaching staff is Ryans and to argue otherwise is silly. I heard Rex thought Sean Payton would be a good OC but he wasn't able to come here so therefore this is not the coaching staff Rex wants.
Did they interview Sean Payton? Was he available? "The Jets interviewed Haley! But they didn't really want him!" Give up. You lost.
I know they wanted Haley as I said before. How does that change the fact that every coach here is one that Ryan picked? What did I lose exactly. An internet battle with someone who is starting an argument over something I'm just stating. This is your problem. You think you are winning something. Its kinda weird.
Well, if you don't care to make points here that withstand scrutiny, that explains a great deal about your posts. What I took issue with, again for substantive reasons as I have explained numerous times, is that you said that Ryan got the coaching staff he wanted. That is not the same as saying each coach on the current staff was picked by Ryan. The obvious difference concerns Haley. We have every reason to think Ryan supported the effort to get Haley, and that Haley interviewed with the Jets but turned them down. For some reason you insist on making this personal with me, when I have, again, pointed out a number of times this is a substantive issue - what does it say that the Jets tried to get Haley and did not succeed? What does that mean about the coaching staff on offense? I told you you lost to help you out, since you should really just move on or acknowledge that your original statement about the CS was in error. Something tells me you will not be smart enough to take either of those approaches.
Seriously, Stop insulting people for just 1 post and read what is being written. You're assuming that the Jets wanted Haley. Find me proof, Stop slinging insults and maybe deal with facts for a change... Oh wait, Unless you're working in the JETS FO there are no facts and so all of this is opinion based banter. I stated before that there's a possibility that the Haley interview came BECAUSE of the hiring of Sparano, not because the JETS were actually interested in having him here. The media writup around Haley to the JETS in every article that i've read was either speculative or based on Haley and Sparano wanting to work together. In fact I can't find one article that brings up Haley that doesn't bring up "Since the JETS just hired Sparano". If they wanted Haley they wouldn't have waited until they signed Sparano to interview him. Everything you say is not undeniable fact, and everything everyone else says is not complete idiocy. Deal with it. If you want to cite something as fact, Have proof or a source. "Because BigBlocker says so" won't cut it with us estrogen filled, newbie, passer by posters that have never completed high-school or watched a football game.. .... Shit we don't even like the JETS.
Oh my god you are long winded and redundant. I know there is a chance the Jets wanted Haley to be assistant OC for pass plays. That does not change that we finally have a coaching staff where every coach is one that Rex wanted here. Its like you argue for the sake of arguing.
It's not stand up to refuse to admit mistakes and to complain about other people. You are not a stand up poster. A chance??? And again, you said initially that Ryan got the coaching staff he wanted. No he didn't. Yeah, the coaches that are with the Jets right now were hired by Ryan. But he wanted Haley, and Haley turned them down. Just give it up if you can't admit a mistake.
Why are you refusing to acknowledge the fact that you don't know that Ryan wanted Haley? Unless, like i said, You have proof to show that Ryan said he wants Haley on his staff, I can't find that proof. Only that Sparano was hired, and an interview with Haley followed. I couldn't even find mention of Haley to the Jets until after Sparano was in the picture. Which leads me to believe that Ryan wanted Sparano, and Haley interview was part of the package.
