Jake is the holy protector of all things Jets. How dare anyone question a defense that's given up nearly 400 yards of offense in 2 out of the first 3 games? Take your entitled horseshit back to the Yankees thread where it belongs.
Agreed. I just need to see this happen on a regular basis before I start believing our D can't get it done.
I think a more appropriate thread title would have been Has this team regressed? It clearly looked like it to me in the 1st 3 weeks of the season. The OL has not opened any holes for any running back to get in any type of rhythm, Sanchez is still making rookie mistakes, our offensive coordinator still has trouble playing to our strengths (although right now I don't know what those are so he gets a pass) our pass rush is non existent and Croamrtie has played 1 good game and 2 bad ones. Kerley was a bright spot today, he nearly broke one (which of course was negated by a rookie mistake by our QB) I thought outside of a few plays Baxter wasn't bad either. I didn't see Wilson getting beaten either. Wilkerson got some pressure and outside of a questionable call played a good game. The young guys are playing well it's just that we seem to be making the same types of mistakes that have plagued this team from day one with Rex. Dumb penalties and inconsistent QB play.
I don't think Shonn Greene has regressed at all. I think he's almost exactly the same back that he was as a rookie. He flies outside and punishes people who try to tackle him one-on-one. He's somewhat ineffective inside where he can't get his stride going and get up any speed. The only difference between his rookie year and now is that there's nobody else to reliably handle 15 carries and wear down the defense early on. There's nobody else to bang between the tackles, where Greene is much less effective. He's a rotational back. That's where all of his success has been.
The offensive line has regressed and run blocking is no longer it's strength. Wayne Hunter and Matt Slauson are both stronger in pass protection than run blocking, as opposed to Damien Woody and Alan Faneca's strength in run blocking. It's obvious where this offense is headed.
He made one dumb decision today, but overall I think Sanchez was much better than people realize today. He dealt with pisspoor protection and an inconsistent running game all game, and also had 3 drops, including 2 touchdowns dropped. (I know they were both on the same drive, so he wouldn't have thrown 4 TDs instead of 3, but they were still dropped)
It's hard to be worse than a turnstile, which is where Hunter is right now. He got beat outside twice including an overload blitz on that side where he had to chip the linebacker coming or Sanchez would get creamed and Sanchez got creamed. I'm thinking at this point that the hole at RT is nearly as bad as the hole at LG was in 2007. The difference is that Sanchez is more mobile than Chad was and every hit doesn't look like the potential end of his career. If the Jets really can't fix the problems on the line at this point we're going to have a long season. Sanchez has definitely improved year over year each season. The problem is that this year the team has regressed some and his improvement is getting cancelled out by bad offensive line play and a defense that has had trouble in two of the three games so far.
How as Greene supposed to do a lot last year when he was supposed to be "the guy" yet BS fell in love with LT, and Greene got relatively few touches? He's a RB that gets better and stronger as the game goes on and the more touches he gets. He isn't getting the touches he needs to get into any kind of groove or rhythm. There are lots of problems personnel-wise on this team, but Greene isn't one of them imo. I don't think anyone ever said he was a top 5 RB in the league, but he doesn't have to be. How can anyone be consistently good when they don't seen consistent playing time and handling? When their OC is constantly jerking them around? Moore and Mangold are the two best run-blocking OL the Jets have, and Mangold even struggles against bigger NTs. Ferguson isn't much of a run blocker. Slauson is only average. Hunter sucks. The OL as a whole struggled even when Mangold was playing. Lots of teams are having problems running the ball because running attacks need a lot of reps to build precision and timing, and they didn't get those reps because of the lockout.
and i'm all for it. i want shots of plax running down the sideline more. i think we were 2 for 3 with plax doing this today.
I'm not so high on his performance today, yes the TE's shit the bed on that one drive but there were some really bad throws today and he either got bailed out by a great play (see Derrick Mason's one handed grab) or dumb Raider penalties. He threw it behind the receiver on 4th and 2 and there was one play that Burress turned and the ball was 5 yards away in the wrong spot (no maybe Burress ran the wrong route). That being said he made some good throws too (TD pass to Burress) but he still tries to force things instead of taking what the D gives you. It's hard, I've never played QB so I'm not gonna say this is what he needs to do because quite honestly when it comes to that I have no fucking clue but I just call what I see. Maybe I'm too hard on him but it's not like he played flawless in the previous two games either. I also know his play is a direct result of a few other factors but I just hate seeing us squander points because he got greedy. I can't brush it off as a "mistake" . It was a colossal fuck up and a better decision there may have won us the game inspite of how bad the D played. Edit: The Mulligan drop, was the ball tipped? I understand he still should have caught it but it looked like Mark just tried to float it in there instead of put some mustard on it.
"Greene didn't break any tackles". Meanwhile he broke out of that brutal double team tackle and managed to scamper for a few extra yards. He was straight up PUNISHING guys like he always does. Blind I say.
Well, you're quoting something nobody ever said. I know he broke out of that. I said he didn't break many tackles, not any. But he didn't make a play in the open field or break a tackle to bust open a big run, like say McFadden. He's obviously a different type of runner, but I'm just not sure how good he is. I wouldn't mind seeing McKnight or Powell take a few carries and see what they can do. I don't have high hopes for them either, but I'm not really sure Greene is a workhorse, like Br4dway said. LT is a great 3rd down back, but we can't wear him out.
