Sheldon Richardson looked clueless!

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  1. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Well, he is stupid as fuck, so that checks out.
     
  2. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah i feel you... but nobody wants to hear it from a 2nd or 3rd year player... talking about other peoples contracts all the time.. If he's gonna be about his money thats fine but stop speaking for other players on the team just mind your own business and make your money... that's all im saying.
     
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  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on analysis.

    Whats scary is that for at least half the season Bowles/gailey are making adjustments. Why not here? what could they have done???
     
  4. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    The moment these guys are drafted and they know they will make a career of it, it becomes their Job, how many of us would tell our boss that we would work for less than what our skills dictate we should be paid?

    It used to bother me when these guys held out or simply went where the money was, but I realized the owners treat it the same, just a business.

    However he could do a better job of just staying quiet about it, and do what Revis did, move into a small apartment and bank all of his money.
     
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  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. I couldn't agree more!
     
  6. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You have valid points. I have no problems with players trying to get all they can and not playing for a discount for their hometown team. They are risking limb and life after football.

    That said, where I have a problem is when they hold out wanting a new contract just a year or two after they signed a new contract. IMO they should old out for what they can get up front, then honor the contract. In some cases, with the "star" players, they're setting records with their contracts and getting more than any other player at their position. If a year or two later another player signs a bigger contract for more money, the first player should still honor his contract and not expect to have his contract renegotiated.

    Owners should also honor contracts. If they want to mitigate their risks, insist on injury clauses or take out insurance policies like the Jets did with CuMar on one or more of his contracts.
     
  7. Aewhistory

    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    I grew up poor, but there is a difference between wanting to be well off and being greedy. As someone who grew up in a family that could never afford to go to football and hockey games I can tell you I would be very aware how my own actions were driving up ticket prices on other people like myself. The funny thing is you never hear the players talking about how the fans are being hurt, do you? No, it is they want more money. Well that money is coming from somewhere. The NFL gouges fan, and even the networks carrying its programming, to such an astounding degree that there is little left for anyone else. This isn't about getting just pay any longer, this is pure unadulterated greed.
     
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  8. Trip McNealy

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    If I were to guess he's a goner once his contract is up.
     
  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don't care if he's 600 pounds if he's playing outside linebacker in this defense he needs to set the edge and keep contain. He's not physically incapable and not doing it becomes more of a mental mistake than a physical limitation. Don't let anyone outside of you.

    Demario Davis barely played but his problem isn't his inability to dissect a play or "being stupid." His problem is the fact that he overruns every ball carrier and in general takes terrible angles to the ball carrier. Bowles sat his ass down after Taylor waltzed in for a score and Davis gave a shit effort and took a crappy angle to try to stop him at the 2.

    As Nagle said, you say the inside linebackers are supposed to keep containment not the outside linebacker? That's completely incorrect. The edge defender is never supposed to let anyone outside of him particularly when they're playing a 6 or 7-technique or even a 9technique at times when they're playing with the tightend on their side.

    3-4 inside linebackers aren't generally supposed to be making plays further outside than the C gap that's why they're generally bigger stronger slower players. That's a primitive philosophy though as inside linebackers are required to be everywhere on the field.

    The front 7 didn't lose this game because of their run defense. The secondary and zone gameplan lost this game.
     
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  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    your analysis is spot on. couldn't agree more with everything.

    David Harris has never been and will never be a "sideline to sideline" type LB anyway. Thats a 4-3 inside linebacker type.

    As I understand Bowles' defense anyway there is not supposed to be a lot of east-west type defense. Its not supposed to be too complicated, guys have their gap assignments and they play them north-south. In the Taylor scramble for the TD, if Richardson doesn't let him get outside he has to step up into the inside gaps where the other defenders would knock his small ass on the ground. It was a pass play anyway so it's not like the LBs are out there with running responsibilities. They have people or areas to guard depending on if its man or zone. The outside rusher always has containment on those type of plays.

    of the stuff i've read from DBH he's always ripping the LBs. now Davis certainly had a poor year no denying that and a lot of it is earned with him but Harris played fine all year, some games he played fantastic. Pace too has gotten ripped all year when Pace was very good in run defense this year. I think DBH has an unrealistic expectation or lack of knowledge on the LB expectations that's why I take his always take his criticisms of the LBs with a grain of salt.
     
  11. BacktoQueens

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    ^ totally agree Vilma..

    keeping containment was a tough task for the big fella, but thought he contributed well otherwise in what was a difficult assignment for him.
    showed some serious versatility.
    he wasn't complaining about 'playing out of position', or making excuses either.

    the game plan was the bigger problem in this one.
    still can't believe we weren't doubling Watkins, let alone giving him huge cushions all day.
    that, along with Taylor's scrambling ability, was why we couldn't get off the field.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    also good points. Bowles asked a lot out of Sheldon Richardson late in the year. perhaps too much. Richardson, never usually one to shy away from giving his opinion didn't seem to mind and deserves credit for that.
     
  13. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    in a way, i was pleasantly surprised that Sheldon seemed receptive to helping anyway he could.
    your right, he does deserve some credit for that.

    i also don't mind that Bowles was asking a lot of him.
    sometimes you need to play guys in less than ideal places, depending on the overall team situation.
    ....and the defense played well (aside from Buff) after making the change.
    if Rex did the same thing, this board would blow a gasket. and if he didn't do it, and stuck with Coples, they'd still blow a gasket o_O
     
  14. Hitsomeone

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    Players on every team do this. They leave for more money. It happens in every professional sport.
    How many of these "critics" would leave their jobs for identical jobs at places that would basically, overpay them?
    Money talks in pro sports, not loyalty or fan appreciation. No one stays on a team or takes a pay cut because they love the fans.
     
  15. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    I feel as if its ok to leave and get your big payday you deserve it... where you do see guys stay loyal is after they made a ton of money and loyalty to them comes at a bargain
     

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