agreed, I think Richardson can be a transcendent player. But I also think the Jets need to ensure that his long-term deal is mutually beneficial. He should only be locked down if we are paying him what he is worth, which is likely not the best defensive player of all time.
I read an article that basically said Wilk is expendable now that the Jets drafted Williams. Of course assuming that Williams lives up to his accolades. And that Wilk might not be in the Jets long term plans. During the draft we didn't hear any real rumors about the Jets trying to shop him. Of course this is the true "Patriots Way." Getting a guy who overachieves, getting the best four or five years out of him when he is most hungry (for that big contract) and then letting him go or trading him after he gets paid by someone else (after you got the best five years out of him).
issue is, he's going to turn around and simply say. Here are facts: My stats = Suh's stats My contract should = Suh contract + If Sheldon out produces Suh this year he's going to turn around and say: My contract should > Suh contract Sheldon has a TON of leverage it's unavoidable. For the Jets it will be a matter of structuring the deal in a way they are comfortable with + deciding generally if they want to invest that much at the position. There will not be a negotiation here. Really it'll come down to: Mo + Coples + Harrison or Sheldon + 1 of Coples and Harrison We've all been saying Mo is the one to be traded. I will argue it's actually Sheldon if they prefer option 1. And on a trade market Sheldon will return WAY MORE than Mo would. We would get multiple first round picks.
I think the jets should consider trading Wilk for draft picks and young OL help NOW! If Wilk and Rich are going to gripe about this for the next 2 years (and they will), move Wilk while he still has much value. The jets OL is old and not very good--Just the fact that greybeard Willie Colon AKA penalty machine is back shows you their desperation. They should have taken a 7th round flyer on Collins. Trade Wilk for a young OL stud and a high draft pick(s). You rid yourself of the distraction, let Williams play full time (he is that good), and start rebuilding a OL that right now needs HELP. Call Jerry Jones.
The issue is Wilk's return in a trade will not be nearly what we get for Sheldon, and Sheldon can and will command a lot more money. It's a matter of which direction the Jets want to go in honestly.
If were only going to pay one of these guys huge money it should be Sheldon. If my choice is Mo for 60 or Sheldon for 80 Im still going Sheldon.
Well if Sheldon wants that much money he can go bye bye. Someone earlier said get the best years out of them then get rid of them for something like the Pats do. I dont have a problem with that if he wants to cripple the team for his own financial benefit. I dont blame him for wanting to get as much money as possible, the point is though he doesnt need to be a d!ck about it.
This is not a problem. Jets have Wilkerson under contract for 2015 and 2016 if they want him. Richardson can be handled as a separate negotiation when he comes due. What I'd do right now is lock up Snacks to an affordable contract and accept the fact that there's no way to retain both Wilkerson and Richardson and move forward from there. Two players can't negotiate as a tandem when there is a 3 year gap between their due dates. It just doesn't work. The most likely result here is that Mo gets traded at some point and Richardson winds up taking the Revis slot in the cap when he comes due in 2017 or thereabouts.
I hope not--as you say, we have him locked up for 2 years and then we'll most likely gain a 3rd rd supplement (all else being equal) if he walks in 2017. In addition, he's going to have to bust his butt for 2 years if he wants that monster multi-year guaranteed payday. I hope the scenario that plays out is the NYJ do nothing to extend or trade at this point but I see an extension as more likely.
There's no guarantee the Jets get a comp pick for him if he walks. They get a comp pick if he walks and they don't sign anybody of similar value or several people of enough value to equal out his value. I'm pretty sure if the Jets had to let Mo walk they'd sign somebody else to help on the talent side and possibly cancel out the comp pick in the process.
Hey guys, new here, I feel like this is entirely dependent on the FO and what kind of player they want. I think Mo will be cheaper in the long run as well as I can see Rich being a bigger headache.He's already chirpring and hes 3 years from being able to seriously negotiate a new contract. Both of these guys are worth AT LEAST a 1st rounder probably more, which should also come into play on deciding who to keep and who to ship out. I don't want to see either go but as a franchise I'd like to see us make more of these type of moves where we get SOMETHING for a player instead of us playing cap games or just out-right losing them for nothing.
Agreed on getting the best years out of a player. In Sheldon's case though, his best years will come on his 2nd contract, no? He's not going on his 3rd contract he's coming off his rookie deal and entering his peak. Plus, dlineman tend to play an awfully long time. He likely has 2 contracts of elite level play before he loses a step. I RARELY say pay the man top dollar, but in this case we've got a young player entering his prime, and already worth that type of figure. I for one will be really pissed if the Jets don't make a strong push to keep him. And opposed to Mo, in Sheldon's case I would franchise him if need be.
If you find the whole quote. That is basically what sheldon said. " i would hope everyone in the league wants that money"
As for Suh vs Watt. They are different types of players. Imo in terms of effectiveness they are comparable. Both impact players. Who would I rather have? I guess Watt but Suh over Wilk and Richardson. Also imo Williams should be in the same class of player as both of those guys (I mean Wilk and Rich). Hopefully he's better than Coples who is still a very talented player.
Suh is a ticking time bomb. He will be suspended again, at some point; and he will never earn that full contract. Watt is leaps and bounds the best DL in the game.
