Nice backhanded way of calling me a liar LTJF. You know what you can do with it, I don't need to tell you.
Have you ever watched the NFL before 2010? It was the biggest story in 2008, got Mike Shanahan fired and Jay Cutler traded by McDummy, and got Orton and Tebow to Denver. Jay Cutler is an NFL QB, strong arm, can read defenses. His problem is can be erratic, and has poor body language. Him "quitting" in the 2010 NFC Championship will be his lasting legacy
Yes, I have watched NFL football for the better part of 35 years. Never had a "favorite" team or one that I was an actual fan of until Tebow came along. Oh, btw, nice subtle knock on Tebow not being the best at reading defenses. I mean, it's not like he's only had 16 starts or anything. /sarcasm.
I really don't understand why anyone would waste so much time in a forum when they don't even like the team that matters. Tebow is essentially gone so why don't you just call it quits early and retire from TGG before the inevitable happens? You're just a muckraker (and a bad one at that). I wish you luck arguing with Jacksonville Jaguar fans (and for your sake I hope that you one day either settle on an NFL team or at least don't exert so much energy attempting to fracture other teams' fan bases).
Definition of MUCKRAKE : to search out and publicly expose real or apparent misconduct of a prominent individual or business Thanks... I guess? Listen, friend. I am not trying to fracture any fan base. I don't call for Tebow to start. I don't post in the main forum very often, so as not to antagonize the regular Jets fans. The only people I argue with are those who argue with me in respect to Tebow in the Tebowmania forum. Why don't you and the rest of the fan base stay in the main forum? You don't have to come in here. I highly doubt that it could be realistically suggested I am trying to "fracture" the Jets fanbase by arguing with two Broncos fans and three Jets fans in a sequestered Tebowmania forum. Why don't you ask Concerned Citizen and Phaytal why they are here also? At least I am a Tebow fan who is a Jet. They are Broncos fans here playing all of you for fools. As far as leaving... I'll leave when Tebow leaves. I have an NFL team, they're called the Giants.
Cliff Notes Version: Tebow regressed as the season went on regardless of play calling. Explain away what you can but look at his stats the last 5 games he played as a bronco. The compare them to his first 5 and his middle 5. everything is worse. YPG passing, rushing, scoring, completion percentage was about the same as it ever was. Why is that? Did play calling get worse or stay the same? Look at all the 1st team reps he got yet he was getting worse. 1 game doesnt explain it all away. Explain to me the other 4 bumps in the road? great defenses? Not even close. So what could it have been? hmm maybe defensive game planning? I'll wait for you to ignore the questions and go straight to name calling.
You call people 'muckraker', while you pretend you know the freaking future and spread rumors. For one, you don't know if Tebow will return or be gone next season. And also you don't know if Tebow will join Jaguars or not. You are not God, you just don't know. You may guess, you may predict, but please don't be a muckraker and act as if you hold the future. Talking about irony.
Did he take over at 1-4? Did they win the division? Did they make the playoffs? Did they win a playoff game? Yes, he lost in week 17 against KC. So what? All of the above still happened so no, he did not choke.
I'm just saying that if that was Toby Romo or Mark Sanchez people would be dogging him for that game, and completely ignore the rest of the season they had.
Not sure if serious. Are you really trying to suggest that Romo and Sanchez are criticized more than Tebow? Than Tebow? Tony Romo and Mark Sanchez are still starting QBs. Tebow won and got no love. Tony Romo and Mark Sanchez get passes from the critics that Tebow would never get. You have to be kidding.
Are you delusional, Tony Romo gets killed in the media, and have you payed attention when the unnamed sources attacked Sanchez?
Yeah, guess I'm delusional then. Guess I just had that one coming... Or Perhaps you have been living in a bubble. Romo gets killed in the media, but it's nothing like Tebow. Not even 5% of the hate. The difference is that those guys can have horrible games, but nobody says they are not NFL QBs. Nobody says they should play RB/FB/TE. If Tebow performed the butt-fumble, you think it would have been the same or worse coverage than Sanchez got? Honestly, I think Sanchez got a pass on the butt-fumble.
Yeah, I admit it, but it's not like I didn't give being a Jets fan a shot. I hoped they would do well this year with the Sanchez/Tebow thing working out like Rex said it would. My problems with the Jets started when I realized that we were all lied to about how Tebow was going to be used. If they said he was just going to hold a clipboard I would have been fine with that and have agreed that it made the most sense. But it seems like we were lied to and Tebow was paraded out as a personal punt protector to look like a damn fool.
Not kidding. Most people understand HOW those games were won, and anyone that actually WATCHED the entire games and not just the hilights of the last 5 minutes of the games could see he was carried more so than HE winning it. Why do you give more credit to the guy who played 5 minutes over the guys that busted their asses for 60 minutes keeping Tebow in a game when he was just shot putting the ball into the next time zone?