It always comes back to this. If Tebow can improve his passing skills and ability to read coverages to the point where a team can run its base offense, then all the other qualities he brings will make him a formidable weapon. If he can't improve on those things, then he's probably got another 2 years, at best.
Well, EVERY QB is a risky unknown when they come in. Most of them have far greater risks than Teobow too, financially. took the Raiders years to recover from JaMarcus Russell as it did for the Chargers taking Ryan Leaf. There's enough video on Tebow now for a front office to ask themselves, "is his upside greater than his downside?" I think it is pretty clear where they stand. Well, for all the talk about what the Broncos did when Tebow was playing... namely getting some wins and going into the playoffs... It seems forgotten that in the last 3 years, the Jets have gotten into the postseason and even had a bit of success. They were in the conference finals just a couple years ago with him. So if winning a playoff game makes the case for Tebow, then why doesn't THAT work for Sanchez? Also what may be being factored in, take a look at the team around Sanchez. What would you say about what he has to work with? Stellar receivers? Stellar running game? The jets offensive woes go well beyond Sanchez. I'm not saying he wasn't a part of the problem this year. But I look at the team and think anyone who thinks Tebow is going to turn this team around is dilluding themselves. Already sounds like the locker room is divided on him if you believe those anonymous reports. He was voted most overrated around the league by quite a margin as well. Also, taking a look at the way the Jets are built. If I'm a tebow fan, I'm hoping the Jets DON'T go to him. Realistically he's got about one or two more years to salvage a career. Best not have your most recent audition trying to salvage something with a team built like the one many jet fans are describing in the main forum. great resume enhancer if he starts churning out touchdowns, but hasn't his career taken enough hits with the knocks against him?
Agreed. That is what is killing his career. His ability to improve on that in the next couple years will be what makes or breaks him. Which is why im skeptical he'll make it. Hasn't shown much in the way of improvment the last 3 years in that department. Some drastic measures will be needed if he's expected to do it by next season or the one after. While I agree that this is part of the equation, I disagree that it is big enough to keep teams away by itself. If he were able to hit the broad side of a barn, or if he improved to the point where he was a dangerous weapon rather than a cheap gimmick... then who cares about the PR. Why not have a guy everyone seems to love if he's out there killing the league? The PR is so damn polarizing because he STILL struggles with the basics.
I kind of wished he didn't stink up the joint this Preseason, is it me or did he have a good preseasons with the Broncos. Anyways, it showed he couldn't run a pro style Offense Sparano employs. Yeah it sucks, but he couldn't move the ball constantly down the field. That is a problem. Blame ESPN for making Tebow a polarizing figure, then again a polarizing figure like Tebow will fuel debate and raise ratings. If he wasn't a polarizing figure he would just be another back-up QB, back-ups should be seen not heard. Honestly if he thinks someone will offer him a chance to compete for a starting job, think again. NFL teams now anoint young QB at the beginning of the season often unchallenged with the success of rookie QBs. All the QB needy teams will draft one in the first round, then try to get a mentor, not competition. I think he should do what Doug Flutie did, go to the CFL, dominate, and become a hot commodity in Free Agency 5 year later. Could work for him.
If he improves his passing, he will get a chance and become such a successful QB and he would be so much more fun to watch. Last year his games were entertaining, but as many know, you could just skip the first 50 minutes of the game
I dont hate Tebow the person... I hate the side show that comes with him. I didnt go to the denver boards to bitch about him and I wont do that when he is gone. But i will as long as he is a jet stinking up the uni. But in all honesty its his fans I hate most - football ignorant, ball licking, rejects that refuse to live in the present.
Why hello again Sweet Pea, I see your record needs changing as it has a crack in it and it is repeating itself. An admitted hater, that must take all of the fun out of life. Guess what none of us have gone to the Denver forums to bitch about anyone either, your logic escapes me on that call. Why should we, Tebow is here, hence we are here. Oh, you must be blaming him for Butt Fumble 2012. Maybe he stunk up so much he caused Sanchez to throw three I N T s the following week. Tebow hasn't played enough this year to determine whether he's improved or not. Unfortunately the Butt Fumble King has shown us in what direction he is headed. Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves. I love the football ignorant call there Sweet Pea. In my case I don't crunch numbers before, during or after a game. It detracts from the enjoyment of watching the game. I've spent 34 years as an engineer on the space shuttle launch team and number crunching is a daily occurance. I don't need to take a bus mans holiday and crunch numbers all weekend. I watch the game for the pure enjoyment. I'm old enough to realize that life's too short to fill it with hatred. Personally I prefer the college games because most of those kids will never make it to the pros. They bleed their school colors every weekend on the field and will go on in life with a ton of wonderful memories. Meanwhile back at the pros, the largest cheer is "What's in it for me?". I admit I'm here for Tim and if he leaves, then I will also leave this forum. I will however pass the torch of aggravation on to someone worthy just to keep you on your toes. SF
The worst thing anybody could have done to Tim Tebow was make him a backup QB on a team with one of the worst starting QB's in the NFL. Again. There's some kind of eternal truth in the situation but God help me if I can figure it out.
After this season, I don't see another team even thinking about a trade for Tebow. The Jets might as well cut him at the end of the season, or try trading him for a 7th rounder. Since he hardly played at all this season what type of value is he really worth????
Not really. His first preseason during his rookie year, he charged forward in the first game, got injured and was sidelined for 3 weeks of it. Got back in time to play the last preseason game where he was so so. The following preseason was a lot like the one with the jets. The knock was on him not getting a TD until the VREY last play he had in the last game. Really unproductive most of it. his biggest claim to fame from the Tebowners was a really exiting play in the Cowboys game where he scrambled, scrambled, and scrambled for like 10 seconds to make a play. While every Tebowner got that tickle up their leg on that play, they forgot when he finally DID pass it, he was about 4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage... and there were like 2 other penalties on the Broncos on that play. So no, his preseasons weren't that great, which contributed to more polarization in the fanbase between him and Orton. Agreed. He's gonna have to figure out how to do it in practice though for any real chance. I can see why they would be skeptical if he's putting the ball into the dirt all day. What would you put the odds at of the Jets cutting him after the season? Someone will sign him though if the jets cut him. He still sells tickets and I don't yet buy that the media is going to stop talking about him. The second he manages to get more playing time either by someone playing themselves out of a job or injury, the media will be all over it again.
his stock went way down this year. my guess is the jets won't get anything and are better off cutting him. I think most teams put the odds very high that he's done there. Why trade even a 7th rounder if you don't want to. They KNOW the jets won't want the distraction, and I think the odds are better that I end up on the moon than him getting an equal shot to compete for the starting job NEXT year.
Yes, the Jets will cut him in the offseason. Certainly if they get a new football-minded GM. No team is going to want the distraction enough to warrant a trade, especially since they'll have the Jets by the balls because they'll know the Jets are just trying to get rid of him. He'll be released but I suspect someone will pick him up - not necessarily Jax. Nobody knows how he personally feels, but if he settles in and accepts a diminished role/new position he could play in the league as a part-time W.C. QB or FB, or special teamer but unfortunately for him his crazy dumbass fanbase will come with him. He's a great person so I hope he goes somewhere where he can succeed in that role and where his groupies won't be too much of a distraction, although I have to say I'm skeptical on both. I'll have pity for his next team's fan base dealing with this circus and his unrelenting groupies, but I certainly won't feel sorry for them because I/we suffered through the worst of it.
If he stays with the Jets next year, Tebow's not going to be any more of a distraction than any other second string QB. Except in this sub-forum.
Where are the Tebow fans who are causing the circus? AFAIK, there hasn't been any large group of people clamoring for Tebow to start. If you're talking about what is said in this Tebowmania sub-forum, nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to read the posts. Additionally, most of the controversy here is caused by Broncos fans trolling and derailing every thread into a pro-vs-anti Tebow discussion. Quit crying.
The shoe does not fit, and it is indecent to characterize all Tebow fans in this manner. I disagree with you, but I have never called you a "ball-licker" or any other name. Lack of decorum is astonishing.
