The ball if Hill runs to it could have been caught in bounds from what I saw....."Its not way out of bounds". I don't know if Hill makes the play but the "overthrow" looked far worse than it did because of the tight hammy. Gates ran a poor route, Holmes had two of them that Gannon even called out, Cumberland broke off one, Hill had his fair share lately, Tebow(Though he's not a WR) didn't execute a play by not turning his head. These aren't "excuses".....but its explanation over what you are seeing. I get you hate everything and anything about Mark Sanchez but there comes a point in time where it gets tiresome of him being the scapegoat for every single struggle.
As a huge Shotty hater, I willing to cut him a little slack after seeing Sanchez in these last three games. He still was the biggest part of the problem with the offense.
It's not like it has to be one or the other. Sanchez was a QB that played one year in college. He came to the NFL and learned the dog shit tactics of Shotty. Perhaps if he played more in college or had more experience he wouldn't have been so utterly ruined by Shotty, but there is no way we will ever know. Does he have a good arm? Yes, and he can look great and make great throws when he is facing no pressure and his receivers are wide open. When he faces any sort of adversity he folds, looks scared, and plays scared. Unfortunately for him and the Jets, adversity is common and pressure-free situations are rare. At the end of the day, right now, he sucks. He is scared in the pocket, makes a lot of bad throws, takes too long to make decisions, and makes bad decisions way too often. It is absolutely clear to any unbiased observer that the Jets would be better off with Tebow or Mcelroy - it's time to call an end to the failed Sanchize experiment. Nobody should feel bad for Mark who is a millionaire out banging hot chicks.
I really don't understand certain things on this forum. How is it that no matter what happens, there are complaints about everything. I'm not a fan of Sanchez but if you don't see improvements in Sanchez from last year, till now, you fellas are blind. He had better composure, got a stronger arm, goes thru all his reads before checking down, extends plays, makes better decisions and is more accurate then last year. Did he blow at least 3-4 big plays, yes he did. Did our WR's do anything to help him. Absolutely not. Getting separation, a running game, catching well thrown balls and a more consistent O-line, Sanchez completes 60-65% of his passes. Why worry about our WR when they can't get separation, even better, why not play press when our running game averages 3 ypc. He made the throws when it counted. And as much as I don't like Holmes' dramatics. He made plays that got us the win. I would almost guarantee when Keller returns Sanchez completion % goes up by 10-15 percent easy. He's the Main piece to our passing game. Sanchez's favorite target since Sanchez became a Jet. If Sanchez's completion % doesn't go up with Keller back then I'd feel differently. Anyway. We won. I'm worried about Revis. Rest don't mater right now. Steelers destroyed us without him. So did the Fins after he got hurt. Just saying.
I would start with neglecting the OL. In 4 years with Sanchez unless I am missing somebody we have drafted 2 offensive linemen. Vlad "The 30 year project" Ducasse and Robert Griffin who was cut. When Sanchez was drafted we had 4 guys who made the PB and Moore who was pretty good. We've replaced 2 PB's in Fanecca and Woody with nothing. That hurts as Sanchez has no protection on the right side. I'll follow that up with the carousel of WR's he's had. His favorite target was not resigned and he has a malcontent as his #1 (who really should be a #2) Now I don't think this is entirely on the Jets because I think Greene had a lot of people fooled but losing Thomas Jones was huge. He was at the end of his career but not having a RB who is a workhorse like Jones hurts the offense. I could make the argument that the Jets have less talent on offense now then they did in his rookie year. I don't know if we've ever really given Mark a fair shot because of the lack of consistency in offensive personel and lack of talent we have surrounded him with.
Well said. I'm glad someone here actually sees things for what they really are instead of just bad mouthing a decent QB that hasent had any consistency in any offensive position. Ass I hear is He sucks. He wasn't sucking while getting you post season wins now was he. It's a team sport. Sanchez is good enough to win in the playoffs if he gets the proper support. Like I said earlier, I'm not a huge fan of Sanchez but he's not the biggest problem here, not even close. If anything he's a positive contributor to a below average offense in every aspect.
I could overlook the lack of attention to the offense if we were drafting/signing Pro Bowlers to the roster on defense but lets be honest none of the guys Ryan has drafted are living up to potential or setting the league on fire.
Our defense, with Revis, is slightly above average, without him it's average. Our special teams are good. Our offense is below average; it might get better, hopefully with more Powell and less Greene.
1. Lack of protection, with neglected OL throughout the past few years, will get any QB antsy. 2. Musical chair on WR. Yeah. That was some joke to watch. 3. Getting rid of TJ wasn't a bad move. Not finding suitable replacement for him was. There's a reason why many people joked about "If there is a book on how NOT to raise a young, promising QB, that book would be named the JETS."
I can agree with a few of your points, however let me explain something. 1. The Jets didn't "neglect" the o line. They drafted Slausen and he has developed into a solid player, Vlad is another guy that has gotten better every year and will probably takeover for Moore next season. Not to mention the Jets have 3 pro bowl caliber players on their offensive line. As bad as you think the o line is, there are better teams with worse offensive lines (pests, Packers, Giants etc) what do you want 5 pro bowl line men? 2. I didn't like that they didn't resign Braylon. 3. Shonne Greene ran the ball well his first two years, that's why they were comfortable getting rid of Thomas (a move I didn't agree with) 4. Lack of consistency with personel? How long has Greene, Keller, Holmes, Conner, McKnight, etc been on the team? Not to mention 4 out of the 5 o linemen been together since his 2nd year.
... sanchez certainly has to improve ... hill played like $h*t and did very little to help him as well ... ... ps - how many points did shotty's O score yesterday? ... l_j_r
On number 4, and are Greene, Conner, and McKnight primary receiving options? Or his O linemen? He his most comfortable with Dustin Keller, the player he has played with his whole NFL career. The next longest tenure receiver is Santonio Holmes. Kerley and then Schillens/Hill. Last year he he Tone, Plax, Mason and getting rid of Cotch and Braylon a player he had his whole NFL career and another he had for a year and a half. There has been no year to year consistency with the WR core.
I agree, but it's the quarterback's job to know where the safety is and protect the football. Tossing up a pick is literally the worst outcome in that part of the field; even if Sanchez had to throw it away and take an intentional grounding call, you're still gonna get 3 points out of the drive.
I think it was a first read throw the ball, and when he went to throw Cumberland was still advancing his route. He should have seen what Cumberland was doing wrong and not throw there, but at the same time you think we could have a receiver run the correct route there. It was a good throw into a bad area. He should have seen what was progressing and not throw it, but he also should be to trust his WR to run the correct routes.
