Sanchez Fans bleat on and on about Schotty because they are saying that he's the reason Sanchez has been so disappointing. I thought it was time for Schotty to leave, too, although I will not be surprised if he does well in St. Louis. Jeff Fisher seems to expect so. But he wore out his welcome here and had become a scapegoat for the whole O. And your last paragraph hardly shows why Schotty sucked as you said. Maybe Mark turned the ball over too much not because of the playcalling or anything else about the coaching, but because he cannot learn ball security and reading defenses. As for Chad, Chad was still hurting in his Comeback year. You don't win that award for sucking. Chad threw too many interceptions that year because Schotty told him to? Anyway, at this point how much of a fan of Sanchez's you are or are not is really beside the point. He is in your avatar, and your handle, so excuse me if I have lost track of your specific position on him. And he has lost support this year. I hope I am wrong about him, and if that is by extension me being wrong about Schotty, and we see Sanchez suddenly blossom next year with Schotty gone, I will be just as happy as everyone else. Not holding my breath, though.
Arguing about missing a player who caught only four balls the year before is silly. As for Cotch, he was hurt in his lsat year with the Jets, and his catches declined. He was in fact the fifth leading receiver.
Chad had the worst healthy season of his career in Schotty's system the year he won comeback player of the year. Your argument sucks as much as Schotty and Smith combined. The reason your argument is stupid is that you routinely slay Sanchez for his 2011 season and blame the offensive woes on him whenever someone faults schotty. If the offense was so horrible with Sanchez having a better season than Chad had in 2006, then what about Chad's season was good? Your holding the 2006 season up as a trophy piece of Schotty's offense while at the same time saying the '11 offense with Sanchez sucked because of Sanchez. He performed better than Chad did in that '06 season.
Fitzpatrick was signed as a FA to be a backup. The Bills didn't trade up to draft him in the Top 5 on the assumption that he's a franchise QB. Moreover, Fitz's contract is about what a team would pay for an "okay" starter like Orton, Hasselbeck, etc. It's NOT elite QB pay. DOH.
So, i have to tell you twice I was not comparing Chad and Sanchez? And Chad was not totally healthy in 2006. And yet he won Comeback Player of the Year. So, how is it he won that award and yet Schotty prevented him from having a good season? And am I mistaken or did not you just say the other day that comparisons even five years apart are misleading since the rules have been loosened up? Well, as we all know now, Sanchez rated out at 23rd this past season. Chad in 2006 rated 12th. So explain to me how Sanchez in fact had a better season in 2011 than Chad in 2006? I didn't hold 2006 up as a trophy piece. I hold it up as a season where somehow that awful Schotty did not prevent, in his first year as OC with the team, Chad from winning Comeback Player of the Year. SMH in case you missed it.
Let me see... One Qb rates out 23rd in 2011. His team finished 8-8. He also gave up 8 fumbles. No playoffs. Meanwhile in 2006 another Qb was rated 12th. His team after going 4-12 in 2005 finished 10-6 and made the playoffs. (Schotty's first year, btw.) And yet for some reason LTJF beleives the first Qb had the better season. Interesting pov I must say.
You don't need to point anything out twice, it's obvious you completely missed the point. Like I initially said I could argue Sanchez had a better season. It's subjective. Sanchez had the best TD/INT ratio of any QB to ever play under Schotty's mutant offense in '11. He also had the best numbers of his career which were similar to Chad's '06 numbers with a lot more TD's and a lot worse completion percentage. On the other hand, Pennington had the worst numbers of his career when healthy.
And neither was Sanchez in 2011. That fact is not going anywhere either. Although you conveniently ignore it at all times. It depends on what you consider to be a 'good' season. If having one more TD than INT is 'good', then your standards are skewed. Chad Pennington had a mediocre year against a weak schedule. But he didn't get hurt, so they gave him a cookie. CPOY is not exactly the gold standard in accomplishments. Most CPOY award winners are out of the league shortly after they win it. Pennington had years to become an 'efficient' passer before Marty's tard offspring showed up to town. He also had a very capable QB developer in Hackett (although a shit game planner like Schotty) while Mark has had Schotty, who was not able to coax the talent available out of Brees and Rivers, both of whom flourished after leaving his tutelage. Schotty has not only held Sanchez back, he also held 2 Pro Bowl QB's back before him. He sucks. Almost as bad as your argument. Don't break anything.
Shotty fans (and there are only four of them in the world, one of them is Marty) blame Sanchez for his sucking, yet his offense brought down the stats of Pennington and Farve as well. I've said quite a few times last season that the problem could be that Sanchez and Shotty both suck, but due to Shotty having a longer body of work, he should be the one that went first. Shotty may in fact be the reason Mark sucks, because Shotty managed to make both Pennington and Farve suck. Mark might just suck without Shotty too, we will see. Pennington and Farve certainly did not. Or maybe Mark turns the ball over AND Shotty's coaching and playcalling suck. Ever consider that? Shotty's system has caused both Farve and Pennington to throw inordinate amounts of interceptions. The stats have been posted plenty of times, and you're on here enough to have seen them. If you don't want to accept statistical proof and cling to your emotions for Shotty, there is nothing anyone can do to help you see reality. I've pretty much said the same thing since he came to NY. As for my name and avatar, I didn't realize picking someone's name in reference to a sexual act somehow makes me a die hard fan of theirs. I don't expect him to turn into Aaron Rogers, but I do hope he improves like he has for the past two seasons. If he can manage to hold on to the football and increase his completion percentage a bit he should be fine.
No doubt that Sanchez hasn't lived up to his position in the draft. But wow did Fitz shit the bed after signing that contract. He led the league in interceptions, and he got a 10 million dollar signing bonus and he's due another 5 million in march. Pretty sure that is top 10 QB money for this season at least. I don't think Orton is getting 15 mil next year. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/201...ontract-details-big-bonuses-coming-per-report
Fitzpatrick is the true winner - he forced the Bills' hand, and once he got paid, he started laying eggs. Damn, these smart Harvard kids... $60M for 6 years, with $24M guaranteed (meaning he picked up a lottery winner.) is NOT an Okay quarterback pay.
The bolded parts are not supported by the facts. They are an urban legend. As far as playcalling causing turnovers, that's a bunch of crap. And Favre has thrown PLENTY of interceptions at various times of his career. Of the 22 he threw in 2008, he threw seven in his last three games, when he was injured. I blame that on injury, not the OC.
BB. I am willing to take your ride just for fun, but you are soon going off the cliff at this rate. Don't just compare Sanchez and Pennington. You need to look at Pennington vs Pennington. Chad never had as bad a season as he had under Schottenheimer - that is a fact. Burt tossed 20+ INTs three times in his entire career, and one of them happened under Schottenheimer's guidance, his only one. Obviously Schottenheimer did not tell either of them to throw an interception, but if the play designs are shit, and the called plays are shit, with given audible plays not much better in quality, there is only so much a QB can do. As Aaron Ross interviewed after the game, (that's where he had his career first pick - which happened to be a pick 6) he literally spewed out what play was called, what routes were being run, and where he was waiting - and we are talking about a fucking rookie CB basically knowing the entire play, not a seasoned veteran, for crying out loud. Doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?
Sources close to anyone with eyes say that they have "serious questions" about the ability of Plaxico Burress.
Irrelevant. All of the QB’s shitty play was because of their inabilty to produce as Jets. It had nothing to do with the play-calling, play-design, coaching or OC. Schotty was a good OC. :wink:
Yeah no kidding. Plax looked very washed up. He was never a burner but he looked extremely old and slow for a starting wide receiver. He was probably the slowest starting wide receiver in the league.
