Sanchez's ability to handle the blitz

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  1. Ben Had

    Ben Had Active Member

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    So why did he look sooooo good in the first game?:eek:hmy:
     
  2. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    Bro, come on.

    It's never Mark Sanchez's fault.

    The receivers aren't open. The play calling sucks. The sun was out today.

    Come on.
     
  3. displacedfan

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    Does everyone realize 99% of QB's struggle with pressure. It's having the timing the with your receivers to beat the pressure. Sanchez didn't have that. His throws were off at times and other times were dropped. Everyone failed to beat the pressure, it's not just the QB

    And to someone who brought up Peyton Manning. Yeah if we had a HOF QB then yes our offense would be better. So would 28 other NFL teams too.
     
  4. papapump

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    It was just a terrible game for the Jets on all fronts.
     
  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I actually thought Mark handled the blitz just fine yesterday. The big issue came when he threw a strike and Holmes dropped the pass, or Cumberland doesn't turn around. Also, not having a receiving threat out of the backfield hurts.
     
  6. MurrellMartin

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    I was slightly joking on my previous post because Mark didn't have a terrible game, nor did he have a good game. You're right on the Cumberland screw up. Turn around and maybe the Jets cap off that drive with a TD and at 14-6 maybe things go a little differently. Just wish Holmes could hold onto the ball like Antonio Brown.
     
  7. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Holmes just isn't "tough" and I question his competitiveness.
     
  8. Wolf Brother

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    Jets are being cute rather than playing real football. 2 quarterbacks means you have none. You have to commit to one or the other: you cannot take two dates to the prom without risking losing both and your fun at the dance. It was funny and cute and got a lot of chuckles out of everyone and even put some smiles on the little children's faces, but its time to put the big boy pants on now.

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  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm assuming you didn't watch the game or follow this team for the past three months, and basically just heard the term 'QB controversy' uttered a thousands times on ESPN. The Jets have committed to Sanchez. Even the Tebow fans know this.

    Only an outsider would think otherwise.
     
  10. Wolf Brother

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    I added a picture that illustrates my point more clearly if you're confused.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm not confused. You clearly don't know what the fuck you are taking about.
     
  12. Jtuds

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    This is pretty much exactly what Trent Dilfer said in his review of Sanchez last week.....good but not great when he has a clean pocket. When things get hectic, he's below average.

    And this is one of those things it is so hard to evaluate when a guy comes out of a program like USC where he almost always had a nice pocket....you can look at his accuracy and composure in those situations, but you don't see stuff like what you're describing until he's playing with the big boys...and so far it's not good.


    Alot of what you see with Manning and Brady is not so much about a guy reading their mind as it as about the QB seeing the blitz pre-snap and making a hot call to a receiver. For whatever reason, we rarely see that with the Jets. I think Mark sees the blitzes a lot of the time and I think he makes the calls but the plays don't always work...and that's a combination of timing, composure, and the receiver getting off the line and going to where he needs to be. Welker for example is great at finding the open space, but I think our players just run their routes instead of breaking off the route and going to a spot....
     
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  13. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    First of all, I never said Sanchez "sucks". I simply don't believe he handles pressure very well, and as many have pointed out, a lot of quarterbacks don't. My only point is that I think most elite quarterbacks handle it significantly better than Mark does. I'm not a Sanchez hater, by any means. I still think the Jets have a shot at competing with him in the long run, however, I am a firm believer that his decision making and accuracy under pressure have to improve in order for that to realistically happen.

    And while Brady has struggled to effectively handle pressure in several notable, downright unforgettable games, I don't think it's fair to compare Sanchez to Brady in any way, shape, or form. Brady has consistently put up historically dominant numbers for the better part of a decade.
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You don't think it's fair to compare sanchez to brady in any way but you're "making a point" that most elite qb's handle pressure better than Sanchez.

    Thanks for that. Here I was thinking Sanchez was elite until I read this.
     
  15. Wolf Brother

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    You may not know what the fuck you're talking about.

    I watched the entire game.

    I do know this for certain: As soon as the Jets lost one single game: It opens the door to "I told you so!"
    It could have been by one point or 14 points. Makes no difference.

    Unless, the Jets are winning. What they are doing "Being Cute" opens the door to "I told you so!" by me and anyone else who knows football and has followed it for years.

    You cannot win in the NFL with two QBs. Or a mediocre QB and a Punt Protector in this case.
     
  16. 85inthehall

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    Same logic is used for Eli Manning -- Sanchez in the playoffs has performed very well. Better than Flacco, better than Ryan, better than Rivers, better than Peyton Manning in his first 3 years, better than Dalton, better than cassel, better than Romo....the list goes on. You need QB play to win in the playoffs...sometimes a little sometimes a lot. Sanchez has done that -- amazing 4th quarter drive against Indy to win had nothing to do with defense. He outplayed Brady in New England.

    So sick of each week Sanchez being held to some standard that no one else gets held to. I saw one bad throw in the game to Holmes in the end zone -- was a bit high, but catchable. We don't have a Calvin Johnson, Gronk, or Andre Johnson. We have Holmes, Kerley, and Hill...no elite receivers. They need to run great routes, timing has to be perfect, and yesterday they did not handle a physical bump and run defense. They had no separation after the 2nd drive. Steelers basically said go ride their back until the refs throw a flag - refs didn't and they rode them all say.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You're still clueless, and now you're back pedaling. Probably after you looked up the play by play and realized how few plays Tebow was on the field for.

    Nice try, though. Actually, it was a pathetically inept try.
     
  18. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't implying that that anyone honestly thought Sanchez was anywhere near elite, on this message board (although some blindly defend him so much, that you would think he is). I was simply conveying an observation that I have had over Sanchez's (still very young and incomplete) entire career. He seems to struggle mightily when forced to make quick decisions/throws.

    And you're taking my point completely out of context. I was responding to what I considered to be a somewhat outlandish comparison of Sanchez struggling with pressure to Brady struggling with pressure. I fail to see how my observation that elite quarterbacks handle pressure significantly better than Sanchez is outrageous or unfair.
     
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  19. afternoondelight

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    tebow has not been used as a second qb. he has been used as a wildcat qb. he is being used in a similar fashion as brad smith was used. when we used brad smith, we did win games. so your statement " you can't win with 2 qb" doesn't make sense
     
  20. 85inthehall

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    It is fair - Brady was sacked 4 times yesterday and the Pats were awful. They played so scared that when they had a chance to setup for a chip shot field goal they had Brady center the ball twice to setup a 40+ yard FG instead of trying to gain a few yards to make it easier.
     

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