Wrong, Most sites had the Jets going anywhere from a low of 8-8 to a high of 10-6 prior to the 2012 season.
This is about as close to seeing by the Junc curtain as we are likely to get. You'll note that for someone that says Sanchez is a good or even great admits here that Sanchez's best shot is to go with a team that has a good QB, sit behind him and work out his flaws and even admitting Sanchez will have a small window, if he gets one at all. Eventually the truth behind the bluster had to come out.
Don't you think that when you make ridiculous statements like, "Sanchez is 1000X better than Freeman," you could be putting yourself in the above categories?
they were 30th in yards, 16th in YPC so they could run the football. They put their fortunes in Freeman's hands and it cost them. Mark has proven to be a top 10 type QB in 2010 and has had ONE bad season(2012). He's middle of the pack at worst if he has decent weapons and he has proven he can win. wins are team stats but QB is the most important position and you aren't winning consistently w/o quality QB play. Mark had 1 less TO, Mark had 26 last year- 18 INTs, 8 fumbles lost. You guys take every word literally, obviously I was exaggerating to make a point but mark is a significant upgrade to Freeman and no it made no sense to take mark back(which was only rumored by the way) b/c it was expected he'd be released. If Mark was let go in the summer TB would have picked him up in a heartbeat and he'd be starting now. http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2012/8/8/3228327/2012-nfl-consensus-power-rankings-pre-season-week-1 average was 18th, that's not a playoff team. if you could read you would know I have never called him great or said he would be great but keep making stuff up, I guess it makes you feel better from all the whoopings when you try to debate me. My biggest mistake is assuming I am dealing w/ intelligent people that don't take every word literally. When I say "nobody thinks..." I don't mean literally not one single person. 1000x better is an exaggeration but mark is clearly better than Freeman.
I obviously realize that you didn't mean literally 1000 times better than Freeman, but when you use that kind of hyperbole you are certainly implying that you think Sanchez would be a major upgrade over Freeman. When teams have a shot at making a major upgrade at QB they usually take it. Tampa Bay passed.
Ponder has a high % rate because he never takes chances down the field, every throw he makes is a safe throw. Ponder should have way better #s with Adrian Peterson in the backfield. Jake Locker again - he has the ability but hasn't proved anything in this league to tell me he will be a good QB. Can you tell me what these guys actually do well on the football field? I'll tell you one thing, they won't put up 30+ scores in their respective 3rd seasons
he is a significant upgrade but a)the sanchez inclusion in the deal was a rumor and we have no idea if it was true or not and b) even if it was it made no sense to include him and add that salary.
Right and Sanchez also threw short intermediate passes and still couldn't complete 60% of his passes. The Jets had a good run game that defenses game planned against similar to Minnesota today. Ponder is a fairly accurate QB that uses his feet to make plays and has a strong arm. Locker has a good arm and is good on the run. I find it funny how Jets fans like yourself can say these guys aren't good but thought Sanchez had potential to be good coming off his 2nd second season. They're young QB's entering their 3rd years I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Ponder does not have a strong arm (He had an injury in college btw). Rarely does he throw it deep. Did you not see him play last season when AP average more yards a carry then he did yards per pass completion? He's good on the run and can make a nice short pass here and there as he has a decent touch on the ball but I don't see much from Ponder that tells me he's better than Mark. Mark at least took chances down the field. Mark can win you a game, I haven't seen a scenario where Ponder has done the same. He's also a little bitch and decided to bitch out of a playoff game because of a hurt shoulder. Locker has a live arm and he's decent on his feet and can scramble, but he's more inaccurate then Sanchez. Don't even try using completion % btw because it's not the end all to tell if a QB is accurate or not. Those guys aren't good because they can't help win you any games - they don't do anything at all on the field. They may not fuck all (well Ponder did in week 1 throwing 3 INTs against the Lions) but they won't do anything to help your team (Locker did nothing against the Steelers). I don't watch just Jet games - and this is not really to defend Sanchez it's to tell you that there are worse QBs out there. That have better offensive weapons and play similar or worse than Sanchez. Imagine Ponder or Locker with the Jets last season. You think things were bad last season? It could of been much worse.
What for? even if Geno doesnt pan out, we have no future with sanchez. this was true before the injury. best course of action, let geno start all year, evalutate if he is worth building around, if not, draft another QB. Sanchez is awful. we were never going to do anything with him. and now with the injury his career is basically over.
They could run because they were 30th in yards and 16th in YPC? That's strange thinking. They had the least amount of rushing attempts, so the YPC can be easily skewed because of the lack of volume. Saying they were a good rushing team is borderline crazy.
when your top 2 RBs have 4.5 YPC that tells me you can run. I would like more info than that but that means more to me than 30th in yds. I'd rather be 30th in yds, 16th YPC than the other way around. They threw it a ton, leaning on Freeman. That was their mistake.
I agree they had to lean on Freeman...then again the defense being as bad as it was probably didn't leave them much choice most of the time. And one of those top backs (the immortal Graham) played in 7 games.
this is a great development. first, it's not a career-threatening injury. sanchez isn't in pain or limited in his daily life. and it gives everyone an easy out from a crappy situation. mark can rehab and get his head together for a career re-boot (in somewhere like Arizona or something). the jets can move on without being second-guessed. no season-long controversy. bingo.
Agreed. It's either Geno Smith or we are getting another QB in the first round next draft. If Geno doesn't play decent like he did against TB - we are going to be in the running for a top 5 pick.
he still had much better weapons over 16 games than Mark had. did they have the throw b/c they got behind early b/c of poor Freeman play or was it the D?
Can we all get behind Geno now please? the last thing we want to do is waste another high pick on a QB.
