he played 3 games against them: 1 in a driving snowstorm where you couldn't even see the lines on the field the other 2 immediately after he TORE HIS ROTATOR CUFF IN HIS THROWING SHOULDER. He did not have an abysmal history against them.
I don't get into crystal ball debates, the way that you do. Sure, I'll make predictions about the upcoming season and about the future of our Qb position, specifically Sanchez; but I don't debate the nonsensical stuff like, "we would've won the Super Bowl with Chad in '08." That shit is just weak. And no, I don't think I ever said anything about Sanchez wanting a "cushy backup" role. You're confusing me with someone else. What I've said is that it's becoming increasingly more evident that it's time to move on from him, just like we've had to move on from Qbs in the past.
I mentioned the back up role. Its an opinion. Sanchez ran to the clipboard and threw the hat on the second he was benched last year.
Son, the thing you forget is that when a defense allows around 14 points a game for the season on average for every game they give up 21 there's another they gave up 7, on average. AKA if a defense is averaging 14 points allowed per game, give or take a point, there is NO REASON ON EARTH to be 9-7. You should be 8-8 just by showing up at all and being more than last years Cardinals, but not much more. This despite a QB who consistently turned the ball over at a pace of over 1.25 turnovers a game, give or take a little. Was he better in 2010? Marginally yes, at least he turned the ball over less that season, the Only time in his career he's turned the ball over less than 20 times in a season. THE ONLY TIME. Yet he led a passing attack that despite having decent weapons still only ranked bottom 1/3 of the league while the rushing attack ranked top 1/3 of the league and yes the defense was again in the top 10 in terms of points allowed. PERIOD. Sanchez's performances in the regular season in 2009, 2011, 2012 were almost identical, save for his spike in touchdowns in 2011. Sanchez is a QB who over his career has turned the ball over more than he's scored, Has NEVER completed even 57% of his passes. What is Mark Sanchez known best for? Quick checkdowns, missing open receivers, throwing behind receivers or at their feet, double and triple pumping and oh yes, the highlight of his career the butt fumble. I've watched every game Sanchez has played, save maybe one or two. and he's consistently off target, in his 4th season STILL was telegraphing passes and staring down receivers. yes you can go through and Cherry pick instances that when taken out of context of the whole make it LOOK like Sanchez was better...the same way you can look at the sun and take a small sample example and state the Sun Orbits the Earth. Or you can stand on your porch and say the earth is flat because you can't see the curvature. But those are examples that only hold true when taken out of context and looked at from a certain perspective. Which is what you insist on doing, hell even I post strokes can see through that bull hockey.
By the Way Junc, I love how you omit in game one that Washington ran for 60 yards on 15 carries, And omitted that Sanchez in typical Sanchez style threw a pick 6 in that game that let the Texans come back in to the game. Or that you Knock the running game for 2 "long runs" but still credit Sanchez's numbers for one long blown coverage pass. But hey, what ever it takes to make your argument look good, right Junc? Like I said, context.
I broke down game by game and again you post averages and rankings. 1.25 TOs per game, did you know that 15 of his 20 INts came in 4 games? in the other 11 he had a total of 5. In 73% of his games he threw just 25% of his INTs but the season averages tell us 1.25 TOs per game! marginally better in 2010?:rofl2: just stop now please, you show how little you know. That passing attack in 2010 won most of our games: vs. NE at Mia at Den at Det at Cle vs. Hou but the rankings show our pass O wasn't very good! He's completed over 60% in postseason. This is a man who has never had continuity at skill positions 2009 opening day: Jones Leon Cotch Stuckey Keller 2010 opening day: LT Greene Edwards Cotch Keller 2011 opening day: LT Greene Holmes Plax Keller 2012 opening day: Greene Powell Kerley Holmes Keller(was never healthy at any point) But it's all on mark sanchez why we sucked last year.:lol: There was nothing cherry picked, I have specific examples going game by game. I didn't post stats/rankings w/o context. Your weak arguments were torn apart and when I have a few minutes I'll tear apart the 2010 one as well which is a much easier argument than 2009.
I hope that Sanchez starts so he can be booed off the field for the final time. Unlike Chad I want this story to have a final ending and not a what if. By week 9 in New Orleans he should be gone for good and we never have to discuss him again. His crime was being drafted with the 6th pick instead of the second round where he belonged.
If you read it(which you should have in order to educate yourself) you would notice I mentioned a sprinkling of Leon. he did a good job that day but Jones was our workhorse. He did throw an INT for a TD(which really was an INT then we had the guy tackled around midfield, he fumbled and Hou picked it up for a TD but you wouldn't know that by looking at a play by play sheet) but Hou never got back in the game, that made it 17-7 and on the ensuing 3rd and 3 do you know what the rookie did? threw a strike to Keller for a 40 yd gain which put us inside the Hou 30. How come you didn't mention that?
4 games is 25% of the season. As for the weak arguments, you use examples out of context to the whole and omit that which doesn't support your position. That is be definition a weak argument. It's funny, you dismiss the running game because it has a few big games, but dismiss Sanchez's horrid QB work in the same manner by dismissing the turnovers as a "Few bad games". Sanchez had 7 games where he did not throw an interception in 2009. In those 7 games he had 1 game where he attempted more than 24 passes, 1. in 4 of those 7 games he had FEWER than 20 attempts, in fact in those 4 games he had 17,15,19, and 16 attempts. He wasn't throwing interceptions because they were no longer letting him throw the ball because he kept throwing to the wrong damn jersey's. He had exactly 2 games where he didn't throw 1 or fewer TD's, the game is about scoring you know. So yes, there you go trying to build an illusion of how good Sanchez was those 7 games he threw no interceptions, except you forget to mention that it was because they weren't letting him throw the damn ball, can't get picked off if your not throwing the rock.
Bozo, I did mention it, remember the comment about the one long pass play? that was it. Like I said, you discount Thomas's performance in the game because he broke a couple of long runs, but you give credit to Sanchez for making a long pass in blown coverage when the defense was playing the run. Yep, it's a pass that Sanchez should have made and he did make it. But when dismissing Thomas for breaking two long runs, that's how he made his career...you credit one for a big play, but discredit the other for a big play. Yawn.
you would think you'd know by looking at the stat sheets he only played 15 games that year. I don't dismiss, I talk in proper context. Our run game was good, our D was really good, our QB was up and down- good one week and bad the next like most rookie QBs but he was never down for long. He battled back from the bad games but that's not good enough for whiny fans. so you can't throw an INT unless you throw more than 24 times? I have never said he was anything more than good for a rookie but you are so far buried in stat sheets/rankings you fail to see it. To folks like you b/c he threw 20 INts if I don't say he was horrible you won't agree but for thoe of us that watch the games and know the game we realize he had a good season for a ROOKIE(a normal rookie, not last years top 3 rookies).
Oh and guess what Junc, if your not throwing the ball then what are you doing with it? You can do it, comeon, yes that's right running with it! BTW in the last 5 games that Season that Sanchez QB'd the Jet won every game that Sanchez threw less than 20 passes, they lost the one time he threw more. IN FACT the Jets only won three games that season that Sanchez threw as many as 20 passes, EVERY game they lost that season Sanchez had 22 or more attempts. So, again tell us how Sanchez was the miracle child who led the Jets to the promised land...oh wait you can't. Fact is Sanchez had one, ONE good playoff game against New England, a game I gave him credit for at the time and still do. But it is still only one game, now if that one game had been the Superbowl that would be different, but it wasn't even the conference championship game to get them to the Superbowl. Sorry man, but that argument is lame. It really is. Now I'm done for the day. Sadly these day's I have to spend more time in bed than up till I fully recover....thank God for short term disability insurance. Though I can't wait to get back to my job, I was so close to buying my BMW Z4.
3rd and 3 was a running situation? can you make up any more lies? can you ever just be honest and give the man a little credit? ohhhh he should have made it, I got it. :lol: Jones didn't make his career breaking off big garbage time runs. try to act like an adult, no need for silly namecalling. Just slink back w/ your tail btw your legs and study up on this game and maybe next time you won't feel as humiliated that you have to call someone "bozo".
wow! can you please have someone read my posts to you that can actually read. Done for the day? you never started, I'd be done too if I were you. I'd feel so embarrassed w/ the lack of reading comprehension/lack of football knowledge that I would run and brush up on this game so it wouldn't happen again.
Sorry Junk, the only battling back he did was by handing the ball off for most of the season, the recipe for Jets losses was letting Sanchez throw 20 or more passes. And yes I know that Sanchez only QB'd for 15 of the 16 games Junc, but just because the your golden boy Sanchez didn't play the other game the TEAM still did, and 4 games is still 1/4 of the season...regardless of how many games Sanchez played. But thank you for making it clear to EVERYONE that Sanchez stunk up more than 1/4 of the season HE played.
