I think their OLs get too much criticism b/c those QBs prefer to be on the move and plays on what are perceived to be broken plays.
You surround Tebow with the right talent and he wins too. It's not a consistent model for success. You need a QB who doesn't just play for a good team but helps make that team good. Sanchez needs to do that this year or he's on his way out.
Ben Roethlsberger is brilliant? The Brady comment was in regard to McElroy being dubbed a "backup"...I said so was Brady at one point. Junc says that he was impressing the Pats staff when Bledsoe went down. He had already moved ahead of John Friez and Michael Bishop on the depth chart. But he didn't look all that impressive in his first bunch of games. No one is comparing McElroy to Brady. But sometimes players turn out really good in spite of what scouts and coaches think. Chrebet did pretty well as a walk on. And lately I don't trust the Jets staff when it comes to evaluating talent.
No. You are completely wrong. Not 50 percent, not 90. 100percent. What is universally acknowledged, is that when Tebow was going to play, the Broncos had to design the playbook for him. What else is universally acknowledged. Is that any team wishing to employ Tebow, would need to do the same thing. Hmmmm..that would roghly be....COACHING. The same thing some of think Sanchez deserves. Albeit less radically.
He must be. He beat a rape rap not twice, but thrice... This years terrible towel should read...."big ben, sticks it to you whether you like it or not" :rofl2:
Did you read the rest of my post? I don't think you did. It's not a consistent model for success. Just like Sanchez in 09 wasn't a consistent model for success. That's why beginning of 2011 Sanchez was so encouraging and why end of 2011 Sanchez and end of 2012 Sanchez was so discouraging. We need Sanchez not to play better because he better players around him, we need him to play better because he has improved. If we are going to win games while Sanchez throws 20 times and we rush the ball all game and hold the opposing offense to nothing, that's not a consistent way to win. We need Sanchez to give the team much more to get return on the investment made on Sanchez. That's why, again, last year was so frustrating. While the talent around Sanchez wasn't there he was stuck making mistakes that were frustrating and setting him backwards as a QB. That's why I've been saying, I don't want MM's system to just make Sanchez look better, I want Sanchez to actually get better with his footwork, his decision making, his ball security, his turnovers, his reads, his consistency/lack of.
Whoever wins. I think if Geno should start he needs to thoroughly outplay Sanchez. If he doesn't, Sanchez should start. If it's close and nobody outshines the other, I give the nod to Sanchez. I don't think you can stand here and say one way or the other Geno or Sanchez should start without seeing how they play in the new system
I expect it to be the opposite, I think Mark will have to really outplay geno to get his job back but we'll see.
Interesting. I think the Jets will play it safer with Geno, figuring if he's not ready they'd rather Sanchez take the reins and see if they can get a revival from him rather than rushing Geno onto the field just because.
I see two scenarios that I think are most likely to occur, both of them have Geno Smith playing but for different reasons. 1. The Jets release Mark Sanchez at some point after they sign Geno Smith. This scenario assumes that Smith is making progress in OTA's and that Marty M is really comfortable with him as the starter. The rationale for the Jets is that they really need to put the last couple of years to rest before the season starts and Mark Sanchez is the last big drag on the organization holding over from those seasons. 2. The Jets start Geno Smith over Mark Sanchez after at least an even competition. That's where we stand at the moment. The rationale for the Jets comes in many flavors on this one. a) They need to see the future at work now to get a feel for where things are going at the most important slot on the field. b) They need to sell tickets and Smith will give them a much more positive buzz going into the season than Sanchez will. c) They need Sanchez available as a real backup QB option in case Smith is not ready and needs to get sat down periodically to get things straightened out. Sanchez will not be that option for the Jets if he has gotten booed off the field before Smith takes over. The fans won't be happy having him come back on the field if Smith needs some head space now and then. The scenarios where Sanchez starts the season mostly revolve around Geno Smith failing in some way. If the staff does not see him as ready to go early on they're more likely to put Sanchez out there as a stopgap, either until Smith is ready or until it just becomes too painful for Sanchez to stay on the field. It could become too painful very quickly though and so I think they're most likely not to go that route unless forced too. Mark Sanchez's best chance to hit the field this year without a lot of booing going on is in a relief role for Smith if that is necessary. The fans will not be half as angry to see him out there if it is obvious that it is not a permanent thing and that it's being done to further the franchise chances not diminish them.
No, I don't think that. I don't think Sanchez is good either. I'm wondering why the Sanchez-heads didn't like Tebow so much as well, even enough to give him a shot to play when Sanchez was benched. Also to point out that you can have success without being a very good QB. And I'm not sure as if Tebow is going to get another shot on an NFL team, even at the backup spot. He brings too much of a circus with him, if even only unintentionally. I foreseen what was going to happen when he came to the Jets. I don't understand the attention he gets.
my point was that brady was coddled when he was a rookie, and really for his second year too although he began to come into his own. ben was similar in that he came in and they put him in a position to succeed, they did that with him for a minimum of 2 years and in reality a bit longer. ben has also had to deal with a number of big play makers leaving.
I wouldn't say coddled, the team took off when he took over and he did lead the GW drive in the SB. He was younger and they didn't put as much on his plate as they would in the coming years. Ben has lost playmakers and gained playmakers. Lose Plax gain Holmes, lose Holmes gain Wallace, lose Ward gain Brown, lose Wallace... They are constantly finding new weapons for him. I think ben is vastly underrated but that doesn't take away from the fact he's had immense talent around him.
