When Pitt needed to run out the clock, did they? The O and in particular the QB played much better than the statsheet. mark was on point all game, a big penalty wiped out a 1st and G and we wound up not even scoring on that drive. Both units contributed but the biggest culprit was our D. The D set the tone, on a freezing day the O had to wait 9 minutes to see the field and began trailing 7-0. The game got out of control a but, both units stabilized it in the 2nd half, the O brought us w/in a score. The D had plenty of time and they allowed Pitt to run out the clock. Just keep looking at boxscores, I'll watch the games. what does this sentence mean? "That 17 point hole before we could blink was the all but 2 minutes of the entire first half" Pitt was on their 8 yd line w/ 1 TO, we kicked off w/ over 3 mins left and 3 TOs. See any difference? when you guys start watching games you will realize that not every situation is the same. and if we held them we would have had over 2 mins left needing about 80 yds. very doable. he got the ball in OT trailing, right? did he give the D a lead in the final minutes? is that the same as Eli having a lead and a chance to put it away then having a chance to get the game to OT? it would be more equivalent to after NE scoring we go 3 and out and punt to NE rather than run out the clock. reading is just not your friend. I stated many times Sanchez deserves the most blame for Ten but that it wasn't all on him. All of your problems would go away if you would just actually read(plus if you watched games and understood the game that would help too)/
U still have not replied to the question which is how many SB rings does Eli have vs how many does MS have? :sad:
You & that coulda, woulda, shoulda but in reality what are the facts not dreams like you do attempting to talk away every NYJ loss. BTW how many SB wins have we had in the last 44 years? :sad:
What difference does it make if he was trailing? He had one possession to score a touchdown and win the game. It's the scenario you wanted in Pittsburgh. Just like you like to forget about everything prior to the 3 minute mark in Pitt, forget everything before the Jets OT possession in NE. I'm just confused because you call the Giant-Eagle game a team loss but then later admit it was mostly on the defense/st. So then I have to assume you consider the title games team losses as well, being that you admitted that Sanchez wasn't blameless.
i cant tell you how glad i am that champ has entered the fray... beware of the junc vortex, it is hard to get out of. 2 diggy diggy dayssssss...
this is where instead of saying you are right junc changes things up and brings up stuff that is completely outside of hte context of what you just smashed him with in order to get you involved in a completely different conversation, and hopefully to suck someone else into it so he can navigate away from the fact that you just brought up a valid point. its quite brilliant, dont accept it just ask the superfan the question again and ask him to clearly answer it. once you start with one of his tangents he will never ever get back to the original point.
Clutch throws? Like heaving it up for grabs, where the reciever made an otherwordly catch by clasping the ball to his helmet. I differ, from Junc on this, be ause, two rings makes you elite in and of itself. Eli does not play elite, in the manner of his Brother,Brady or Brees. But...hes got two rings. But...YOU cant make that argument, because by non stat qualifiers, Sanchez is second tier. 30 wins, five fastest. BTB AFCCGs. So, hes proven that as a rookie, he can win, and take you deep nto the playoffs, and beat the best in their buildings. So, if Eli, is in fact elite, because he happened to be there......not by his statistical play... And Eli has had a more dominant pass rush,better skill players, and a better coordinator.
You said the D put us in a 17 point whole before we could blink. We were not down 17 points until there was 2:00 left in the first half. In that same time period, the O went 3 and out 2 out of 3 drives and then gave the Pitt D 7 points on the 4th drive. How did Pitt start on their own 8? We punted from our own 40 right? In the AFC Champ game we kicked off with a little over 3 minutes and Pitt started from their own 41 with 2:58 right? Try and follow along here. You expect the D to hold them to a 3 and out without gaining any yards? If they punt, who says they can't pin us on our 8 like we did to them when we punted from the 40? If we held them to 0 yards, they would be punting from their 41. We would have had 0 timeouts. If the odds for Pitt were bad with a TO, then our odds were worse. I watched both games. You just don't have a clue what you are talking about. If Sanchez deserves most of the blame, then why argue that it is a team loss to people who put most of the blame on Sanchez? Read your quotes below and tell me which parts I am having trouble with. :rofl2: Since it is hard to interpret your SuperFan talk, why don't you make it simple for me? I will list some games, and your choices are: -It was a team loss -The D was the main culprit -Sanchez was the main culprit I already know you think the D was the main culprit for the Pitt game, but what about these: NE 2012? Mia 2011? Den 2011?
Round... Like a circle in a spiral Like a wheel within a wheel Never ending or beginning On an ever spinning reel... Please, somebody close this thread.
This thread needs to exist until Mark Sanchez is no longer a NY Jet. No one knows how long that will be.
NE 2012? week 7 Sanchez hits Hill, in the hands , where the Jets can kick the game winning field goal. Thanksgiving? Yeah, that was all sanchez if you think thats all Sanchez, youve got butt fumble on the brain.....
he had multiple possessions to end it and one to ensure OT, mark had ZERO possessions to win it thanks to the failure of the D. The title game losses were team losses, most of the blame goes to the D but the O deserves some blame. The O didn't get the ball until late in the 1st qtr. I was talking about Pitt starting at their 8 w/ a chance to win in the reg season game. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=2772943&postcount=7582 2012 NE: D blew 2011 Den: D blew 2011 Mia: D blew
One day, the Sanchez ballwashers will wake up and realize just how much of an inept QB he truly is. #bustchez
Everyone has their hands in the blame. Both sides of the ball. The only unfortunate issues is the QB touches the ball every play
WR Steve Smith from the Carolina Panthers: "He sucks. I wouldn't let Mark Sanchez throw me a paper bag sandwich." That is all. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-smith-of-panthers-rips-mark-sanchez-he-sucks
Sanchez had a possession to win or extend the game in OT and failed.You don't count that as a possession? Also, the Giants defense had multiple possessions to not give up a 3 td lead with half a quarter left. You'd have to blame the Jets for not continuing to extend the lead in the '09 title game if you're going to point out that Eli didn't add points in the 4th quarter of the Eagle game...but we know you put that one pretty squarely on the defense.
