Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. BeastBeach

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    He is getting bored swatting away the flies. What he doesn't realize is that flies are drawn to shit, which he spews constantly.
     
  2. alleycat9

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    in all of the many posts that i have had in this thread i have been unable to so eloquently put my feelings toward junc... thank you sir for saying what i have tried!
     
  3. Diabolical_Jet_Fan

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    Which is why I quit years ago. He has almost 20,000 posts. 10,000 defending Mark Sanchez and the rest defending Herman Edwards.
     
  4. alleycat9

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    holy cow... i just saw the sanchez headband picture....

    it looks like razor ramon and a homosexual man had a baby and that is what they ended up with... sheesh.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

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    Why 29 days?

    You are aware, of course, that June 1st is a designation, not a calendar date. You can cut a guy at any time and designate him as a June 1st cut.

    Come training camp plan on some mo nacho.
     
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  6. feldspar

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    Yep, anyone that could possibly argue against blaming Sanchez for the Titans loss doesn't know what he's looking at, and he should find somebody that knows the game to explain it to him. The guy threw 4 INTs, each one all his fault and most of which were downright gross. Then he fumbles a low snap in a crucial spot. 12 possessions by the Jets, and FIVE turnovers by Sanchez. Good Lord, do SuperFans partake in homerism? Sure seems like it, but I'll have to consult somebody that knows the game to be 100% sure.

    Now, being an average fan (thank God most people are), I'd look at the stat sheet and say that the Jets defense only allowed TWO third-down conversions in that game. And, apart from that 94-yard run, the Jets D held Chris Johnson to 1.4 yards-per-carry on 20 carries for the rest of the game. The Jets won the time of possession in that game despite Sanchez single-handedly turning the ball over FIVE times. Attribute those meaningless fantasy stats to the defense.

    The Titans did all they could to help the Jets by committing 14 penalties (as opposed to the Jets' 4), but Sanchez helped THEM out even more. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that Sanchez was on the take, looking at some of those "passes." 13/28 for 131 yards, 1 TD, 4 INTs and a fumble...more meaningless stats. The average fan would look at that and say "yeah, that's about what happened," but the SuperFan wouldn't. The SuperFan locks himself in a basement and watches games from three years ago on a loop.

    You lose a game like that by only 4 points, and there is but a single place to point the finger.
     
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  7. 1968jetsfan

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    Rock Hudson dated and was married to some spectacular women back in the day. Michael Jackson was Married to Elvis's Daughter...The fact is the more you tout your relationships publicly there is an ever increasing chance of being a closeted something or other.

    Of course it doesn't mean that's the case, but history has shown that Celebs with sex lives outside of the perceived norm often have a "beard".
     
  8. Acad23

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    Our boy Sancho threw 4 td's & 11 ints. in the last 8 games of the season.

    And after every game he said he had to play better.

    Not sure what he's waiting for.

    He's got the chops, but he plays with his head up his ass.
     
  9. Acad23

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    Now the thread title makes sense...
     
  10. 1968jetsfan

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    As opposed to subaverage fans like yourself who ignore all the pundits, ignore all the stats, except when they can take a small slice out of context to make it appear to be the whole argument, and ignore the actual complete game tape and usually instead focus on just one or two plays that he happened to do well, or one game in a season of 16 games where he played well while ignoring the rest of the body of work.

    People like you are so blind to their own faith they'd walk off a cliff before giving up their mancrush.

    Simple fact is for every good game Sanchez has played over his career he's played at least 2 times as many really bad games in any given season and overall that number is actually 3-4 bad games to every good game...never mind exceptional games which he's had really only 1 or 2 games that really made you go "wow this could be the guy!"...one of those wow games happened to be in the playoffs...Big Whoop.

    you often say you don't care what a player does in the regular season as long as he can win playoff games...Fine Lets assume Mark is a playoff stud, just for a moment we'll indulge that fantasy. What good is a playoff stud if he has to have an elite team around him just to get to the playoffs? And if he has to have an elite team around him to reach the playofffs then is he really a playoff stud? Or just a JAG who's been fortunate in who he was teamed with early in his career.

    Good QB's make other players better, Mark isn't, and never has been, A good QB. Period.
     
  11. 1968jetsfan

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    Sanchez has the Physical tools, but he doesn't have the head for it.

    He's slow reading defenses, He's comical in his un-needed pump fakes, and even more so in his double and triple pump fakes. He locks on to receivers, doesn't work his progressions and will inevitably choose to throw in to double and triple coverage on his prime reciever rather than check down or throw the ball away.

    He's consistantly late delivering the ball and often inaccurate when he delivers the ball which severly limits a recievers YAC, or even ability to catch the ball.

    Yes sometimes he does have "big boy throws" that he makes, but for every Big boy throw he's got 3-4 bone head throws and another 3-4 bad throws that average QB's make routinely.

    The fact that for his career he's under 70% for passes behind the line of scrimmage and under 60% for passes of 1-10 yards, the bread and butter passes of the NFL, speaks volumes.
     
  12. 1968jetsfan

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    I might also point out that there are Many NFL players that have the pyhysical tools but never can put it together on the NFL field. Ryan Lief was physcially gifted, Where did that get him? Veronon G was physically gifted, where did that get him?

    If you don't have the head for the game it becomes apparent on the field.
    If Sanchez played for any other team he would have been on the bench a while ago.
     
  13. TonyMaC

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    None of that matters.

    theres enough layers of dispersed responsibility and fools gold stats to keep the perception that he's worth keeping.

    he won 4 playoff games and has a winning record overall so something must be going correctly right?

    hes the fastest player to 30 wins! so he's better than most!

    hes had terrible coordinators while doing all that, so imagine him with a good one!

    The defense falters when he's doing good by not limiting the game to a low enough score!

    his weapons aren't very good either! so its okay that he's struggled.

    support him and watch this stud go!

    he's better than we think, honest its just everything else has gone wrong!

    and when things go right its mostly on him! y'know like those playoff wins!

    It stems from a mentality that he doesn't have to be perfect to be good, which in principle is true, I'd be fine with a game manager if he was reliable enough. Mark hasn't been though, he's done bad all by himself.
     
  14. Hobbes3259

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    Maybe you could qualify the talent question....

    Which first round offensive skill player was taken to give Sanchez a weapon, after he was drafted.

    (and given the fact that weve drafted almost exclusively defense, high in the draft, as great a coach as rex is, we should have a defense that doesnt blow games....)

    If you want the QB to perfrom you need an OC and skill players.

    If you want to draft exclusively for Defense, Eric Smith and Ellis Lankster, have no business seing playing time.



    Lets take a successful offense.

    Tom Moore calling plays.

    Manning.

    Harrison,

    Wayne,

    Addai,

    Clark.

    Thats how you build an offense.All first round picks.

    I liked Jones,LT,Edwards,Plax, but those were all late career retreads, that should have been complimentary pieces, because at that stage, there was no room for continued growth.

    You have it now, with Hill,Kerley, and Cumberland with Holmes as the complimentary oiece.

    At some point, like next year, you have to draft stud offensive players higher in the draft.Particularly a RB.


    Simply, sanchez, right now...has on more year of post high school football than Smith.

    You have a coach, and a QB thats handled big spots, and adverse circumstances. Those are building blocks.

    Skill position players need a couple years to develop, no sense in screwing Smith too.
    (and Garrard isnt good for 6 games)
     
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  15. Jeti

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    Hobbes, Sanchez ran into an ass, double pumped faked so many times into an interception, can through a consistent slant, has shit pocket awareness, is lacking confidence and is pretty much the reason the Jets are the laughing stock of the league, he ran into his RG's ass on National TV vs our divisional rival.

    I thank him for 09-10 but its best both parties go their separate ways and I hope he does well wherever he goes, just not with the green and the white
     
  16. Acad23

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    So Hobbes...

    Now Sanchez is comparable to Manning if he had some 1st round talent around him?

    Give me a while to let that sink in.
     
  17. 1968jetsfan

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    Except he wasn't the fastest to 30 wins, or even close to the most wins by the end of his 4th season. In fact, when you stop to think about it, Sanchez has averaged 8.25 wins per season as a starter. Barely .500 per year, I've checked 13 QB's all of whom so far have had more wins by the end of their 4th season as a starter, or the eqiuvialant number of starts, and all of them so far have had more wins. Maybe Sanchez hit 30 a game quicker than some, but by the end of their 4th seasons (the season that Sanchez hit 30 wins) he trails them all.
     
  18. 1968jetsfan

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    Yawn, #1 offense in the leagues, the Patriots...0 skill position players selected in the first round.

    #2 offense , the Saints...1 Skill position drafted in the first round, Mark Ingram. Several key contributers on offense were UDFA.

    #3 offense, The Lions...3 skill positons on offense were drafted first round.

    #4 offense, broncos...4 skill positions on offense were drafted in the first round.

    #5 offense. Redskins..2 skill postions drafted in the first round.

    I could go on but you get the point, 3 of top 5 teams on offense had 2 or fewer first round picks on offense. In fact a number of the key contributers on offense were drafted after the 4th round or UDFA's.

    What the Teams DO have in common is very good Quarterbacking. Remember that before Manning showed up in Denver the offensive recivers were considered no bodies and borderline flops. good QB shows up and BOOM they light the place up.

    Point illustrated...Good QB's make the players around them BETTER. Bad QB's make those around them worse.

    Edit(all listed first round picks include the QB)
     
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    Eh one more point.
    #10 offense in the league...the Colts, 2011 the teams offense was dreadful, add a good QB and the offense moves from #30 ranked offense to the #10 ranked offense.

    BTW the 2012 colts had 3 First round picks in skill positions, 1 of them old. most all had been there the year before. Add one good QB and offense goes from 30th to 10th.

    to Repeat, Good QB's elevate the level of play of those around them.
    Bad QB's deflate the preformance of those around them.

    Class Dismissed.
     
  20. Don

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    Even better it gives the Jets to trade him for something better than a 27th round pick.
     
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