Ya nevermind Sanchise is clearly a the best rookie in the league and a future HOFer. Without him we'd be 0-9.
Ouchy, you're clearly trying to make the case for either Stafford or Freeman being the better rookie thus far. So which is it (or is it both), and WHY do you think they are playing better than Sanchez to this point? Stafford has worse stats up to this point, and has won only once, to the Redskins, while never trailing in that game. Freeman is 1-1 in his two starts, beating the Packers (at Tampa, but still a good win IMO) and losing to the Dolphins on the last drive while sitting on the sidelines (a wash with Sanchez who has lost on the last drive both while sitting on the sidelines and playing on the field. Wash because a true comparison requires two games by Freeman against the Dolphins). Sanchez's 1st two starts were a win against Houston (which is looking more and more like a great win against a quality opponent), and the Patriots, which while they weren't at full strength has to still be considered a good win considering that team still went 11-5 last year WITHOUT Brady. So I'm not trying to flame you, I'm just curious as to what your reasoning could be
I think we'll be a true contender in '10 IF jenkins can come back healthy and IF Leon can come back healthy and IF the older guys on the OL can hold up and IF we re-sign Braylon. There's alot of if's but we'll see.
The other two QBs have poor running games and sub par defenses so they have to try and carry their teams on their back. They also have far inferior O lines. Sanchise has a great running game and good defense and is being asked to manage games and let people around him make plays. It just feels like he is developing slowly and there are a lot of red flags. Like holding thee ball to long (or dropping back in the pocket before a throw instead of stepping up), he has ball control issues in the pocket, he looks down his wideouts way to much, and its still a mystery if he is going to fade in poor weather games. I am not saying he is horrible or wont be great one day. But its way too early to start saying he is going to be great. Is Matt Cassel great?
a lot of wishful thinking and jets ball washing going on here! fact is, it's still too early to know what we have in sanchez or rex. there's definitely too much panic in some of these threads. no one (ny media) seems to be patient enough to give these guy's time to develop. mid season next year is about the time we should be giving these guys a grade.
Yeah, that's what happend. Its just the way we lose that makes it even worse, but we all knew with the Rookie QB/Coach that 8-8 or 9-7 would be great.
what other rookie QB's are you talking about- only two have played Stafford and Freeman. Stafford about 4 games total and Freeman 2, do you care to elaborate on this.
Stafford and Freeman have not performed better. Understand there teams came into seasons with know expectations as both teams were horrible last year. New York there is alway pressure.
Jets @ 3-0 everyone's perception of the team gets skewed beyond belief. Fantastic start that it was, it was unrealistic to expect it continue with a Rookie HC and Rookie QB in charge. If we hit 8-8 this year, I will be more than optimistic about the future. These two guys are the future of the team and we have a lot of good players around them. This time next year we will be challenging properly for the top spot in the East and for that matter for many years to come.
I agree. Faneca has, more than just about any other aspect of the offense, dropped a notch. Must be upgraded. Between D'Brick and Mangold, the blind side should be tighter.
You really can't compare stats between the two. Stafford is playing with a bad wheel, on a bad team and is still being asked to carry the Lions. This place would implode if Sanchez averaged 42 ATTs coming off a knee injury.
It's also bogus to compare them because Stafford has much more collegiate playing experience than Sanchez.
I love that New England wants their revenge...I'm sure they want to destroy us (and are quite capable)....But....By the Football Gods....Beating them would instantly disregard our 5 losses. Prey to the Football Gods. I'm hoping for rain...
While I don't put much stock in collegiate starts at this point, I do think Stafford would handle the limelight better than Sanchez has. Matt has been groomed to be the guy since he started growing pubes while Mark is learning as he goes. At some point, fans should be expected to give each some slack. But that rarely, if ever, happens. Most think that if you play, even as a rook, you must produce and if you don't, then it was the wrong pick. It's sad, really.
this is a good post, i agree with the fact that there are issues, i agree with the part that he needs time. its not time to freak out. ouchy i would agree with you also if you had just said this "It just feels like he is developing slowly and there are a lot of red flags. Like holding thee ball to long (or dropping back in the pocket before a throw instead of stepping up), he has ball control issues in the pocket, he looks down his wideouts way to much, and its still a mystery if he is going to fade in poor weather games." and didnt bother with the other qbs on the other teams that have nothing to do with sancheese development. as soon as you started up that tree your entire thought meant alot less. i am seriously concerned about the fact that he has dropped the ball so many times.
I'll give you that. But then you would also have to agree then that it's silly to think that Stafford is outperforming Sanchez up to this point, which is the assertion Ouchy was making
