what you are describing is precisely my point. Someone suggested the only solution here is to require average citizens to carry weapons. But it's pretty difficult (and expensive) for every American man to carry around an AR-15 to church. So they have to carry closed quarters weapons. A closed quarters weapon, as you describe, is no match for a psycho wielding an AR-15, so that "solution" would not work..... like we saw here.
First of all the main point of the common sense gun reform I suggested is a deterrent. Pussbag probably doesn't attempt this if he knows everyone in the pews is packing heat. Second, they certainly would be able to fight back with pistols.
One doesn't need to carry an AR-15 to church. A semi-auto handgun would have been enough, as at 10-25 yards it would have been at least as effective as an AR-15. I can only assume that everyone inside was unarmed.
it's Texas. I know the dude had mental health issues. but of course he figured people in church had guns. He just didn't care. A deterrent, it was not
that's why they should be praised as heroes. they were extraordinary. not average. We cannot rely on extraordinary to show up in every situation. In fact its probably a bad idea to rely on the extraordinary. Just last week some dude goes into a Colorado walmart and starts shooting folks at random. A bunch of average joes pulled out their guns and started shooting. It made the situation more dangerous and complicated police efforts to ID the real shooter. But that was ordinary not extraordinary - -
We don't know that. In fact, in Texas any church can post a sign prohibiting people from entering with firearms. We don't know whether this particular church had such a policy in place. It's very possible though, considering that the town has population of only 400 people and everyone pretty much knows each other.
Saturday night those were just 2 average joes that you wouldn’t have wanted armed and handling the situation. They didn’t become extraordinary until they did what they did because they couldn’t wait for the cops
Just what I suspected earlier in this thread. The Latest: Air Force didn’t tell FBI of gunman’s conviction Hence he was able to legally buy firearms and pass the instant background check.
And yet he was legally not allowed to buy a gun. Just because people misapplied the law doesn't mean the law isn't good and correct.
The law is good an correct. But the af is to blame here, had they alerted the FBI as they should have , he would t have been able to get the gun.
Or if there were some serious consequences for those who allow these things to fall through the cracks. It's easy to shrug and ignore the law until one must bear the responsibility for doing so whether it's an Air Force guy here, a county clerk in South Carolina or Alabama or a farmer in the parking lot of a gun show somewhere.
