Same Old Jets? I don't think so...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by gustoonarmy, May 16, 2009.

  1. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    lets remember bart scott is the type of guy we loathe. he has done nothing in new york but talk shit. that is ALL he has done here.

    i dont mind a little shit talking just so long as you can back it up, now he has to prove to me he can back it up. otherwise he is jason taylor.
     
  2. Scoffaveli3

    Scoffaveli3 Banned

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    so because I don't want to trade Big Ben for Sanchez, that means Big Ben isn't overrated?

    LOL...a little logic might not hurt


    Do the Jets have a safety like Reed:NO

    Do they have a LB like Ray-Ray:NO

    Is Mason better than any wr on the Jets: Yes

    Is Ngata better/younger than Jenkins: Yes/Yes

    Is there a "kelly gregg" on the Jets: No


    the similarities aren't really there...not to mention y'alls division is much tougher
     
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  3. Killeri9590

    Killeri9590 Banned

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    Rhodes and Cotch are easily comparable to Reed and Mason

    Our LB tandem in Scott-Harris could easily become one of the best

    Our defense is loaded with talent kid..jenkins, thomas, pace, ellis, etc. We all be used where their strengths are played.

    I don't expect a top 3 defense but a top 10 defense is definately not out of the question
     
  4. Jam.

    Jam. Banned

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    I think you mean No/Yes
     
  5. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    Murderay Lewis is old I think Scott and Harris will be as good. The Ravens only gave Lewis a ton of money to keep the spirit of the defense going after losing so many coaches through the years.

    Kerry Rhodes is not as fast as Ed Reed and will never be as good a ballhawk. But he's stronger and more physical and more effective around the line of scrimmage. When used correctly, like in 06, KR is a force. I honestly think in the right scheme Rhodes will be as good a player as Reed.

    I doubt there is any difference between the two receiver corps that really favors the Ravens, especially when you take Keller into account. And Leon Washington gives the Jet offense a player the Raven offense can't match.

    Ngata is just younger than Jenkins.

    Kelly Gregg is 32 so don't make fun of Jenkins age and then talk about Gregg. Maybe the Jets don't have a space eater like Gregg on the roster, oh wait they got Douglass.

    Here's a guy you didn't mention: Darrelle Revis. There is no one on the Ravens who can match him.

    Put it all together and the Jets roster is as good as the Ravens. And lets be realistic, its not like the Ravens make it to the Super Bowl every year. I honestly think that having Suggs, Scott and Lewis in contract years was the key to the Ravens big year. Why else was the team so much better than in 07? Joe Flacco? Doubt it.
     
  6. NY Sack Exchange7

    NY Sack Exchange7 New Member

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    I could not have said this any better myself, and "Spot On" mate! Jets d is up and coming, Ravens have lost a few steps. :up:
     
  7. Scoffaveli3

    Scoffaveli3 Banned

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    lol i've heard it all...Rhodes comparable to a guy who could end up as the greatest FS of all time?

    Cotchery comparable to one of the most consistent WR's of all time?

    what has Dustin Keller done?

    I would say that McGahee, Rice, and Mcclain is up there with Jones/Washington

    Gregg>>>>>>>>>>>Douglass

    I'll give you revis. but lets see how he does with a healthy Brady and TO in the division


    this is funny...picture the Jets getting to the AFC championship...lol not even you guys can do that...

    the teams aren't comparable...point blank period.
     
  8. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    lots of coulds and mights and wills.

    last years ravens team had MUCH better personnel i cant say what the deal will be this year but i dont think all the pieces are in place for the jets to win the championship, which is scary because we arent a terribly young team.

    time will tell, we will see.. but as of right now i am not nearly as confident, or over confident as many posters around these parts.
     
  9. Jam.

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    Yes Rhodes is comparable, but they are different types of players.

    Yeah Cotchery is a very consistent reciever...Watch many Jets games, do ya?

    Keller has only had one of the best recieving rookie years for a TE. I think there was a thread about it about a week back.

    Gregg is getting up there in age.
     
  10. NY Sack Exchange7

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    It will be fun as all hell to see Stucky and Clowney "Grow Up" with Sanchez in playing in the NFL. Much like Manning and his Wr's did back in the day. Ravens still have Suggs and Ray Ray, but please tell me that Ray hasnt lost a few (Ok a Bunch) of steps and thats why no one went after him? I'd worry more about how to beat the Steelers then what Rex is doing now for his new team.
     
  11. Scoffaveli3

    Scoffaveli3 Banned

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    lol the Rhodes thing has be falling out of my chair...wheeww...can't...breathe...


    This is Mason since 2000: 895,1128,1012,1303,1168,1073,750,1087,1037,

    This is Cotchery since 06 : 961,1130,858


    they look similar...except Mason has 3x the productive seasons...if you said one day that they could be comparable you'd be right...but right now Cotch is a fly on the wall of Mason's locker
     
  12. Jam.

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    So...Cotchery is younger, which somehow makes him worse?
     
  13. fansince90

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    This is what ive been saying the whole time!!! his stats are no better than the LB's we had last year. as Public Enemy said..."Don't believe the hype!" i am very skeptical but my optimism affords me the opportunity to remain neutral until i see how they actually play.
     
  14. Firemangini Ed

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    Ed Reed had 41 tackles and 1 sack last year. He is a pure ballhawk and has always had coaches who use him that way. But he is not a complete safety. Kerry Rhodes can do anything a SS or FS needs to do. He is the most complete safety in the league. The reason Jet fans are so high on KR is we remember how he played in 06 when he was used the right way: 98 tackles, 5 sacks and 4 INTs. Ed Reed could never put up numbers like that because he is not physical enough. KR's complete package can be just as effective as Ed Reeds ballhawking, which is all he does.
     
  15. Killeri9590

    Killeri9590 Banned

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    So have most of your posts in this thread
     
  16. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    sorry that cotch has only been a starter for 3 years. he has been as productive as mason in those 3 years. no reason to believe he won't keep it up like mason has throughout the years.

    reed is a great player he really is, but the reason he gets so much hype is because he is a total ballhawk which=highlight reel interceptions and returns. he does not have the tackling ability of rhodes, and rhodes does not have the pure ballhawk skills. say what you want but we all saw what rhodes could do when he was allowed to make plays. go watch some tape of the jets last season. the idiots running the defense had kerry playing centerfield about 20 yards off the LOS every play. stick reed in that type of situation and his stats take a hit as well.
     
  17. PennyRoyal10

    PennyRoyal10 Well-Known Member

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    you know what's funny, in your infinite wisdom i'm sure you predicted a 1-15 team (the dolphins) winning the division and hosting a playoff game this year, right? point being, anything can happen year to year in the nfl, so yes, i can picture the jets playing in the afc championship game next january...
     
  18. Scoffaveli3

    Scoffaveli3 Banned

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    Seriously. Just stop.
     
  19. Scoffaveli3

    Scoffaveli3 Banned

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    well i can't. its not gonna happen
     
  20. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    I will, out of mercy. 41 tackles.
     

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