Whoever coaches the Jets next season he will be a better coach than Doug Moron and have a better QB in Smith than EJ Manbust. Enjoy another weekend of last place, bowling and kielbasa in Buffoonalo, clown
Or maybe we should give our new GM the benefit of the doubt? Maybe, just maybe, he will hire a better HC who will win the SB for the Jets within the next few years. You act like Rex is the only coach in the league who can win the SB with the Jets (which he obviously hasn't). If Idzik fires him, he probably has good reasons.
Awesome answer. Really on point. Your unwillingness to answer the question tells me all I need to know about how credible the basis for your opinion is.
I am going to stick up for Rex. He can't guarantee we will have the greatest defense in the league, despite being a defensive guru. Plus he lost a few players to free agency and trades. We are still a decent defensive team. That's all that matters. P.S. I am still not saying we need to keep Rex.
It's pretty clear. He's won more games in his first five years than just about any previous Jets coach. Would imagine there aren't many Bills coaches with more wins in their first five seasons either.
Mangini in 3 years won more games then Rex will have won in the last 3 years after he had Mangini's team to win with in year 1 and 2. He has 2 more wins then Herm over 5 years and less winning season. If he doesn't win in Miami he has the same amount of wins as Joe Walton in his first 5 years as Jets HC. Historically, the Jets haven't exactly been the standard to measure HC against each other as a measure of greatness.
oh so the first 2 years don't count? we should compare the l;ast 3 years vs. Mangini's last 3 years? w/ MUCH more talent Mangini won the same amount of playoff games in his 3 years as Rex did his final 3 years as jets HC. and Herm was a good coach, making the playoffs 3 of 5 years w/ the 2 years missing b/c of QB injuries. It would be the worst mistake this franchise has ever made if they get rid of rex and that is saying something for this franchise.
Speaking of really crappy coaching jobs this season, Biggs....Grumpy Old Tom was right up there with your Midgets
Winning record and 2 AFC Championship game appearances in 2 seasons. All with mediocre Quarterback play and while playing in the same division as Tom Brady and Bill Bellichek Edit: I was supposed to be quoting the Bills fan.
No doubt and he may well be fired in spite of winning a SB while Rex was hanging his hat on 2 AFC finals. Coughlin and Rex both could be fired and with cause. The Jets ambition is AFC finals the Giants ambition is SB trophies. Both have fallen short of expectations.
The difference btw our teams was luck, 2007/2011 giants got the bounces in the title games, 2009/2010 Jets did not. It had nothing to do w/ coaching, QBs, etc... In 2010 they call what looked to be a forward pass a fumble and Pitt gets a TD, in 2011 Bradshaw clearly fumbled which would have set SF up deep in NYG territory needing a FG to win but they blow the play dead. The Giants were 10-6/9-7 the years they made SBs, both were fluke runs where everything broke perfectly for them. we didn't have balls sticking to helmets.
I heard John Clayton on the radio the other day, he sounded pretty sure Rex will get the axe. He listed 8 coaches that he believes will get canned on black Monday, Rex being one of them. He did not list Coughlin, although I do think there's a solid chance he won't return for the Giants. Here's a wild one - any chance the Jets pursue Coughlin if/when Rex is fired and if/when Coughlin becomes available? Or is he too old to be taking on new jobs like that?
So what would have happened in these imaginary Super Bowls that the Jets could have gone to? Nobody knows What we do know is that the Giants won in the two that they actually went to while the Jets lost in both conference championship games. Hardly a strong argument to attribute that solely to luck when even if the Jets had won both champ games they could have lost in both Super Bowls. There is no argument to make here.
This is true also. I'd prefer to see Rex kept around for another season but I can easily see Idzik having reasons for letting him go that relate to how the team is run at this point. The Jets bad play after the bye in the last three seasons is a real issue. The Jets are 2-7 in the 3 game spans immediately after the bye from 2011 to 2013. So the refresher point of the season, the place where the team has a chance to get healthier and to reset the game plans has instead turned into a stumbling block for them. Given that Rex has a very light hand on the bye, choosing to use it as a vacation for the team instead of an opportunity to reset for the second half, you have to think his coaching style plays directly into the bad results there. The good teams in 2009 and 2010 went 3-3 in the games after the bye. The Jets under-achieve after the bye under Rex's leadership. That's a real issue. The other thing that is really important to note is that coaches that are out on either end of the spectrum, either as disciplinarians or player's coaches tend to have a shorter period of effectiveness than guys that walk the middle. There's something to be said for having a coach whose actions are not predictable from the player's point of view. Keeping your players walking on egg shells is bad but not allowing them to get comfortable is not.
Idzik's decision might also have a lot to do with philosophy as well. He comes from Seattle where they preach competition and have no issue with stacking up multiple players at a position and letting it play out as it may. Rex isn't like that. He's loyal to his guys. It makes it difficult for Idzik to build his team on the competition mantra if Rex isn't playing the guys who earn it, or at the very least staying loyal to "his" guys. A decision could have less to do with the pros and cons of Rex Ryan, as we've seen hotly debated on this site, and more to do with this. And that's fine - you can't have one arm doing one thing and another a different thing.
I think Rex has done a poor job overall as a HC, but in his defense, he hasn't really had a lot of talent backing up the starters he is loyal too. You really need someone hands down better before pulling Reed, we don't have that. We didn't have an option for Sanchez either, but that could be Rex's fault as well.
Another good point. If you don't have talent on the depth chart it makes it hard to replace veterans who can do the job even if their skills are in decline. Rex did put Bart Scott on the sidelines a lot last year. He did this because he was playing 5 and 6 DB's a lot but Scott would not have been out of the game in 2010 and 2011 in those situations. His play had declined by 2012 and Rex made sure his snaps did also.
This is a fair point, but I have to say I disagree. It's not just the Reed thing- who I think obviously shouldn't have been playing as much as he was, Allen earned that spot. He's been too loyal to Bart Scott over the years, Eric Smith as well. Calvin Pace, another guy who Rex has stayed too loyal too over the years. How about Cromartie? Rex has had no issue at all pulling Milliner this year for giving up big plays (not his guy), but Cromartie has been out there on one leg getting beat just the same and he's never pulled him for Darrin Walls? why- because Cromartie is his guy... This is just on defense which we know he has had his fingerprints all over. But offensively I think we've seen this with Shonn Greene (who last year was getting vastly outplayed by Bilal Powell yet still getting all the carries), I think Jeff Cumberland earned a bigger role in the offense both last year and this year but he hasn't gotten it - a different coach and he might. On the surface we haven't had the depth that the Seattles of the world have had, sure, but Rex also isn't putting a lot of trust in many of these young guys as well. Maybe a coach who is humble or ballsy enough to sit some of the veterans when they deserve to sit would in turn develop some better depth.. who knows?
Antonio Allen had more snaps than Ed Reed this past week and Ed Reed played primarily passing downs only (CLE had +40 of them) according to Cimini. The confusing part was Ed Reed immediately getting snaps. Calvin Pace took less money, came back, and is having a career year. Last year Greene averaged 3.9 yards per carry, Powell 4.0. I think Powell is a better pass catcher but I'm not sure about blocker last year. I kind of agree here, I disagree that he was vastly overplaying Greene, but I wanted to see more Powell last year. Cromarite is a definite question mark, although you have to remember Walls has been inconsistent too. He came into the TEN game and got picked on by Locker I believe. But yeah Cromartie playing injured has been curious, although whether it be strategy or not, he's been burnt less the 2nd half of the season than the 1st. I can't really say anything about Cumberland. It says he started 12/15 games last year, but that doesn't show how many snaps he gets and I can't find a link to that. I do agree overall Rex tends to stick to players a tad too long, but there are times where we really have nobody to go to them. That comes from trading draft picks and not having 6-7 every year. Again, I do agree overall though. One of his weaknesses is sticking to certain players too long even when there is a viable backup
everything broke right, they were good but far from great teams. hail Mary's, dropped easy INTs, balls sticking to helmets, multiple PR fumbles setting up pts, bogus non fumble call, etc.... The teams were similar, NYG didn't win b/c of Coughlin, they won b/c they got every break in the world while we did not. All 4 of those title games could have gone the other way. It's not like comparing the '86 Giants to the '09 Jets. They were truly great in '86, they got hot in '07/'11
