Rex hates the right team

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Marshall will definitely help their running game.
     
  2. TurkJetFan

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    He absolutely will and I'm not disputing that...

    But if I were to say we BOLSTERED our running game then I ask how? A WR is not bolstering your running game. It will open up your running game but bolster no way.
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

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    So you are arguing semantics and probably not even doing that well. Marshall prevents people from stacking the box, thus changing the dynamics of their running game.

    Boster: To add to, support, or uphold (sometimes fol. by up): They bolstered their morale by singing. He bolstered up his claim with new evidence.
     
  4. TurkJetFan

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    my friend...

    You can pull out your dictionary but I would think it's safe to assume if I was having a conversation and said the Jets bolstered their running game this offseason, and I cited a WR that would be a poor choice of words. It's not a matter of semantics it's a matter of what the point is...and if the point is the running game was bolstered because of a WR signing that is a false statement.

    If you want to work with your definition we can do that too. Marshall is a WR he was added to the passing game...

    The Dolphins running game hasn't changed because of signing Brandon Marshall, they haven't added to the running game, it's still the same as it was before they signed Marshall...But it is definitely a true statement that due to his presence on the field the running game will have less resistance...that doesn't make the running game bolstered it just simply means that they will have less resistance.

    If the point was the Dolphins offense has been bolstered then yes absolutely...But that wasn't the point made... to me this is a dolphin fan reaching to make a point, or just not understanding what it is he was saying.

    Passing game bolstered? Yes.

    Running game bolstered? No.
     
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  5. WhiteShoeWillis

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    The Jets running game was bolstered by the addition of Braylon Edwards last season.
     
  6. TurkJetFan

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    It absolutely was not...

    The Jets running game benefitted from Braylon Edwards being on the field but the running game wasn't bolstered by Braylon Edwards...If Braylon Edwards ran the football with success then yes the running game was bolstered by Braylon Edwards.

    The correct statement would be, the Jets offense was bolstered by Braylon Edwards.
     
  7. MBGreen

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    wow...a semantics argument.


    the running game improved with the addition of Edwards......bottom line. Anybody who watched the games last year will see that.
     
  8. TurkJetFan

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    It absolutely did...And the same will happen with Brandon Marshall and Miami, that's not the point...

    I guess arguing over the proper use of the english language is for nought.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this ridiculous argument, but I'm done with it. Any schmuck can see the Jets running game benefited tremendously from the addition of Edwards.
     
  10. TurkJetFan

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    And when did I say it didn't????

    I'm saying learn how to use proper words in a sentence, because one word can change the whole point...

    Any schmuck who finished high school knows that.
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Except that you're the one that doesn't understand the use of the word or this would never be an argument. It's perfectly fine as used in the context it's being used.
     
  12. TurkJetFan

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    It's actually not. I could try to spell out why but I'm positive it's going to be a waste of key strokes..

    that being said we can agree to disagree
     
  13. Phins Rock

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    I was referring to Marshall helping the run game. It was absolutely ridiculous how much teams stacked the box last year (there were times against Buffalo that they put 10 guys in there in the middle of the field...10 guys!...of course Ronnie and Ricky also busted runs on that play and made them pay for not having a safety as a last line of defense); they can't do that anymore with Marshall on the outside, (now also moving Bess into the slot making LB's think twice about committing heavily to the run).

    LT provides a wrinkle of passing you didn't have?? Leon Washington was one of the best backs in the NFL in terms of catching the ball out of the backfield and running those draw plays on 3rd down. He's the second coming of Kevin Faulk.

    We disagree on Incognito. Is he a better guard than Smiley? Mehh...pretty even. But before Smiley, Ronnie and Grove all got hurt in that 2 week span, NY and Miami were 1a 1b (switching between 1 and 2 every week it seemed) in the NFL in rushing. Smiley missed a lot of the season, Grove as well and obviously Ronnie missed the last 7 games. Bringing in a dependable guy like Incognito makes the run game better just for the simple fact he'll be in there 16 games (probably). Also John Jerry (to me as I was not impressed with the Idaho guy at all) was the best run blocking guard in the draft; we'll see, as I still think it will be Donald Thomas and Richie, but either way they have more depth and a better starting 5 as everybody is a year older (which in this case is a good thing).
     
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    Buffalo made him an offer and he declined because he did not want to go back. Again, he's started every game since coming into the league and been effective. The only reason he got cut in the first place was because he's got a crazy temper, which I am still very concerned about (yet part of me is very excited lol).
     
  15. WhiteShoeWillis

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    ^ I guess you missed the part where Leon was injured most of last season.
     
  16. Phins Rock

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    I know, but I'm referring in general to the past few seasons.
     
  17. Hennessy2710

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    Against the Jets Marshall is a non factor. He will be lost on Revis Island. So in retrospect Marshall has absolutely zero affect in the running game when they vs the Jets. He will help against other teams but not us. Revis has covered farrrrr better recievers then Marshall single handedly. The dolphins are a fucking joke.
     
  18. DJphinfan

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    Revis's presense and skillset creates less space for the rest of your defender's to cover..His ability and range off the receiver is deadly, and imo makes your defense very good....without him, i believe your average.

    Marshall creates more space for our very talented backs to run, space that these two backs have never had the pleasure.

    Marshall is one of the best blocking receiver's in the game...he's been quoted in saying he's most excited about that part of the game...

    Ronnie in the Cat, jet sweep to ricky around the corner, with Marshall on the corner blocking..AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Feed the wolf baby!!

    Our power run game and Smashcat could dominate some teams....
     
  19. Hennessy2710

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    Yes some teams, but not the Jets. Marshall is absolutely a non factor the 2 weeks they play each other. You also better hope Henne gets him the ball so he can put his numbers up or hes gonna start punting balls from the ball boy during practic (see last year around this time). Its only a matter of time till he explodes again and starts crying about not getting his way.
     
  20. Phins Rock

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    You're really going to make predictions on a Miami player imploding when your a fan of the Jets? ok....

    And by the way, outside of Johnson, who are these far better receivers that he has covered and shut down?

    Also, general question here for you guys, I saw mentioned in a thread that Revis would report no matter what on August 10? What's going on on the 10th that he'll definitely report?
     

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