Record After Week 4

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What's Our Record After Week 4?

  1. 0-4

    9.2%
  2. 1-3

    30.3%
  3. 2-2

    40.8%
  4. 3-1

    13.2%
  5. 4-0

    6.6%
  1. joesmoe39

    joesmoe39 Active Member

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    you really need to watch and learn! maybe you've been watching, but you haven't learned much. i'll chalk it up to your youth, teenager, maybe...
     
  2. JHTJ

    JHTJ New Member

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    I've been posting here for a long time, I'm not trying to get you guys all pissed off, just stating what I believe to be the obvious.
     
  3. nyjcanada

    nyjcanada Active Member

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    you've yet to refute what i said...
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It's easy to say you don't see anyone worth mentioning, because you have the luxury of judging the team on what they were in 2008. That's like me saying in the offseason of 2008 that the Dolphins didn't really have much of a receiving threat, and yet Fasano stepped in the was a great release valve for Chad when they needed it - because that receiving corps really was no great shakes.

    I would like to see how guys like Trusnik and Westerman fare coming in for a rotation, and I know how creative Ryan gets rotating players around with his adaptive schemes. Weaknesses can be masked. Hell, in 2006 Brian Schottenheimer was able to make Chad look like he was regaining 2002 form for a good half a season until DCs caught on and started gameplanning the timing routes.

    You should know how well coaching can mask weaknesses by the way Sparano turned the Phins around last season with an unbalanced offensive attack. You don't necessarily need the next big thing sitting in a depth spot to replace a starter for 4 games - or to make an average starter seem better than he is.
     
  5. Scoffaveli3

    Scoffaveli3 Banned

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    I am going to say 1-3

    All the pundits keep telling me Houston is going to be good...but I'm not sold on it

    They will either get the win against Houston or Tennessee
     
  6. nyjcanada

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    well said, you know when an undrafted FA is getting hype from the press it's got to be something.
     
  7. joesmoe39

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    i'll try to clarify it for you a little simpler.
    i think most people on this forum would agree, the jets were not that much better than the titans, not a blowout better.
    and then you try to compare two games that were like apples and oranges. the raven/titans playoff game was a hard fought,smash mouth game that went to the very end. as compared to the other.
    it's like your comparison of a #5 qb selection, to a #6 linebacker selection. ask people on his board who they think should automatically be a starter from day one and they'll tell you the linebacker. qb's usually have a learning curve. have to digest so much more knowledge than a defensive player.....
     
  8. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    First sign that your a moron who's losing the football debate? You need to attack spelling or grammar.
     
  9. nyjcanada

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    what would you have called the jets/titans game. that was also a game won in the trenches. hell, people on this board gave the gameball to the oline and kris jenkins. those games were both hard fought, smash mouth games.
     
  10. JHTJ

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    Fair enough. Consider that it's just as easy to assume that your coach can X and O his way out of losing a very good LB for the first quarter of the season.

    Personally I think the Jets have a very good defense, and it is true that there's 11 on the field but I think losing Pace is going to hurt. I really like the guy and wanted him signed back in 08. I don't believe you guys will go 1-3 because you lost Pace as much I do considering the Schedual and QB situation.
     
  11. joesmoe39

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    lol, you can't really be this dense. i'm not interested in playing tag any longer. your point of view is quite small...
     
  12. nyjcanada

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    ok, great. this post really changed my mind on the whole situation, thanks a lot.
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The schedule looks tough compared to last season, but I stopped falling into the pre-season strength of schedule crap years back, and I avoid predicting records like the plague because of it. Last season half the world had the Pats pencilled into the 2008/2009 Super Bowl 20 minutes after the Giants won the previous SB, and half a game into the 2008/2009 season half the world had the Pats pencilled into the basement of the AFCE, and neither was right.

    I know how good a linebacker Pace is, I know how valuable a defensive coordinator Ryan is, and I know that the first 4 games are likely to be very tough. I am not disputing that the loss of Pace is big for us. It is. I also know that it will have less of an effect on the Jets' record than our inexperience at the offensive side of the ball.

    I'm confident in the Jets defense with or without Pace. Offense... not so much. But I have huge expectations for the running game, so that's something.
     
  14. JHTJ

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    I used to really enjoy posting in the Jets forum but it seems that the last couple years I've had to weed through a hundred "Your gay LPhins fan haha LOLZ" posts to find good posts such as this one.

    Anyways, good post. I agree.
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Hahaha, thanks man, but I can be as guilty of the insult posts as anyone else. It helps when we have some rival fans like you that want to have a civil and objective debate and don't jump into a thread acting the douche only to turn around and cry that people are insulting them. You've always been a good apple and an excellent poster, even if you root for the enemy.
     
  16. Jets n Boys

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    Since when does $22 mil equate to "the best defensive player"?

    BTW, he got 21.5 mil in guarantees. Bart Scott got $22mil... if that helps ur logic.
     
  17. Jets n Boys

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    Because Pace is out? Thanks. Apparently, we had won a few games when Pace was in Arizona.

    And who says 'we won't miss Pace'? To me, I think you need 11 players on the field. Not sure how it goes with the Fins though. He will be missed, but you're forgetting the fact that we still have Harris, Scott and Bryan along with Gholston (who Ryan expects to be a starting material). Im sure Gholston won't suck to say the least.

    Talk about over paying for Pace (6 yr $42mil), Channing Crowder got a 3 yr $20 mil contract...essentially paying more money over the first 3 yrs than Pace. That should shut u up for a little bit if u knew any better.
     
  18. Quack

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    Trust me, we as Jets fans are glad as hell that Pace came to us. Jesus, could you imagine Pace and Porter lining up opposite each other? There aren't enough expletives for that.
     
  19. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    Try telling that to 'Psycho 78'. He was on the Pace bandwagon last offseason just like 99% of all Dolphin fans and was probably suicidal when he chose the Jets over the Dolphins. The Jets outbid Miami by $1 million dollars and all of a sudden it's 'The Jets way overpaid for an average linebacker'.Now that's he's out for four games it's 'Gee, how are you going to overcome losing your best defensive player' stuff. It's nonsense. The Jets first four games are tough as hell with or without Pace.

    Maybe 'Psycho 78' should be more concerned about the Dolphins first three games:
    @Atlanta
    INDY
    @ San Diego

    Keep in mind INDY is a night game. No 100 degree September 1:00 heat. Peyton Manning vs a young and not so good secondary. Miami is staring 0-3 in the face......
     
  20. nyjetsrule

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    agreed, this is exactly what I was afraid of when we drafted him. At Ohio State Gholston was simply a superhero who was to fast/strong for opposing tackles. He went nuts a few games in his junior year, and then actually dissapeared against terrible teams, and was incapable of providing pressure. Gholston hasnt shown any ability as a football player, he has only proven that his old tricks don't work in the NFL, and he has found no way to adapt at all.

    Back on Topic, I think we go 2-2, beating the Texans in a tight open season game, and the titans. The titans while they won't be garbage certainly wont be as good last year without haynesworth. Everyone saw what happened around here when the defenses best player got hurt. Especially when that guy is an frontline force, the run defense really suffers.
     

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