Yeah, that's true. I just had the feeling a lot this weekend that we were stealing from Peter to pay Paul. Honestly, after more post-draft thought, and the fact that I think DT was very well covered by that last pick, I think the draft was pretty good. Like I said, in any other year, this draft was amazing. My big point is that this has been widely regarded as one of the top drafts, talent-wise, all time. To fill spots where we don't have a perceived need seemed wasteful to me. Again, I don't know what this regime is planning, so beating them up without giving them 3 years is just wrong.
I was also questioning this pick but then I realized I live in San Diego who use Lorenzo Neal to lead block for LT. He will be Lorenzo Neal for us. From everything that has been said he is a GREAT blocker. So he will be a lead blocking FB and probably a goal line TE. That late in the draft I think the Jets got a player that can really contribute to the running game.
Actually the top 12 or so were VERY strong this year but many scouts felt that there was only 15-20 players with a first round grade this year, not the 40 you seem to think.
For arguments sake, the chiefs have had the best line in football for quite some time now, and can't even consistantly make the playoffs.
all i can say is thank god!!! alot of the guys on this board arent gm's. the jets did really well our o line i s really set for a few years now especially if jones take to rt tackle like he did in college he bulks up 10 15 pounds then we address d line in next years draft werwe not a playoff team by no stretch so if we draft well we will have built form the inside out and if clemmens is as good as they say then we have a very solid future
They actually did... we had one of the best lines in football like 2 years ago. It was this regeme who broke it down-- letting Fabini, and Mawae go-- and then making half-assed signings in FA to be quick fixes for a year or two. they were old, but they were both certainly better than any of the signings we made-- Clement, or Teague. So they had no choice but the draft the guys we got-- they missed out on Bently, Schaffer and anyone else could have been a long term replacement.
The pass rush is in our linebacker Corps. We are going to be throwing so many different linebacker blitzing stunts this year, it is going to drive all opposing offensive lineman crazy.
Yeah, Schlegal with his 4.9 speed- hobson with his 4.8 speed, Vilma at 230 lbs-- sounds like a real group of born pass rushers.
Fabini is old and hurt. He wasn't playing well. Mawae was being a dick about his contract so they let him go. ANd hes getting up there in age too. As far as I'm concerned Mangold will be as good or better than Bently and he won't cost us as much money at first.
Schlegal is a run stuffing inside 'backer. Pass rush usually comes from the outside. Barton can generate some rush.
This regime that broke it down? you gotta be kidding me. Our offensive line was atrocious last year, and don't blame it on injuries, because even before they were injured, both Fabini and Mawae were bad. I actually think Fleming made a very good post. I used to think that he was basically just a troll like Rajensen but I think he gave a very fair evaluation of the draft and for the most part, I agree.
That's because they knew Herm was coming and wanted to get in touch with their softer side.:breakdance:
So thats it -- thats our answer? barton can generate some pash rush. Well, I guess we're set then. As far as mangold, yeah i think he'll probably be good too- but the argument was that it was not the old regeme who let us hang out to dry in regards to the Line. They added 3 new starters in the past 2-3 years- Moore, jones, and Kendal-- This regeme lets the other 2 go (who have been with the team forever) and FORCED themselves into picking those two guys by not signing a substantial replacement. They haven't signed any substantial replacements as of yet. We signed 2 half assed LB's and drafted another - signed a half assed C and Tackle, and drafted another 2-- I have been saying all along, I do not want to sign players, and draft their replacements this year. That we would have been better suited spending that money on 2 good players who will be able to play at a high level for a few years-- like bently, or Arrington, or Schafer. That is much better to me than spending FA money, and picks on the same spot, and still not having a solution. Does anyone think we are truely set at LB now? We added 3 players to the spot, and we still don't even know who the starters will be.
Well, why do you say they were bad? because our QB was sacked, and got his fag as shurt? Well, sorry, but that happens. Our line wasn't that bad before the injuries. If anything, you are making my argument stronger, because Jones was bad at RT because he was OUT OF POSITION. Just like he will be again this year.
They didn't sign any big name free agents because they are way overpriced. They thought that a better way of dealing with the O-line issues was through the draft, which they did. The signings they did make was for depth. As far as the LB corps is concerned, I do agree that we lack a pass rushing OLB, hopefully Thomas can surprise us. However, not knowing who the starters are going to be is not a bad thing. It just creates for more competition and requires the players to perform at their highest level. If you watched the games, they were beat consistently. Fabini especially was absolute trash. I did not think Jones was that bad at RT, he was moved to LT because of how terrible Fabini was there.
Chad was murdered against KC and JAX and Fiedler took a few hits in a short time in JAX. Still blaming it on the QB play? The Old Regime failed to realize that guys like Fabini and Mawae were on the decline and injury prone and failed to get depth to replace them in the future. Really there was only 1 backup we had going into last season that would make a decent starter and that's Jonathan Goodwin. Every good team has depth in key positions such as the OL... and I think by signing numerous OL through agency and grabbing 2 in the draft they're working on making our OL top heavy as well as depth.
