Raiders to sign Asomugha

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  1. SyracuseJet

    SyracuseJet Well-Known Member

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    He's getting paid like the best cornerback TANDEM in the league. I can buy TWO Pro Bowl corners with 14mil a year. He isn't that good. To warrant that kind of money, he better intercept EVERYTHING that's thrown...The Raiders have effectively paid a guy who averages 2 Int a Year, 28.5 million over 2 years. Al Davis should be shot for Impersonating an NFL Owner.

    If you're a Raiders fan, and aren't pissed about this, your an idiot. Not pointing a finger, just all fans in general. :raiders:
     
  2. Mr Electric

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    I'm not a Raiders fan - and this is actually a pretty good move. If they didn't re-sign him, he would've bolted for free agency. Davis gave him what he asked for...sure he broke the bank for him, but he's not going to find a corner that comes close to being as good as NA.

    They already signed Chris Johnson to a pretty small contract - he plays opposite Aso.

    He's one of the most valuable defensive players in the league - he shuts down an entire side of the field. No QB wants to throw near him. He's that good.

    You obviously don't understand...

    "he better intercept everything that's thrown at him" ??? No one throws at him. Aso is that fucking good.

    I'm guessing you just looked at his stats on ESPN.com.

    He does way more for that team than get INTs...it's hilarious to see you say "he isn't that good".
     
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  3. SyracuseJet

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    Are you fucking nuts? Seriously... 2 Picks a year. Ok, I'll CONCEDE that he has the ability to shut down his side, but is that enough to warrent 28.5 mil over 2 years?

    Who's better?

    Nnamdi Asomugha ($14,250,000)

    Or

    Polamalu ($4,625,000), Revis ($2,670,000), Vasher ($3,300,000) and L. Landry ($752,500)

    And those 4 are $2mil+ cheaper.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    What part of "no one throws at him" do you not fucking understand? He rarely has a shot at an interception...because his coverage is so good, QBs don't even look his way.

    Troy Polamalu is highest paid player at his position.

    Nate Vasher is overrated, frail, and may be released by the Bears.

    LaRon Landry is still on his rookie contract. He'll bring in some big bucks after it runs out.

    If Revis keeps playing like he has been, he's going to sign a HUGE deal when his rookie contract runs out...

    As of right now, Aso looks like one of the best corners to ever play the game.
     
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  5. SyracuseJet

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    You know, I've never really had a disagreement with you before. But this, this is something else. You are Applauding a team who just spent 10% of its cap on ONE man. ON TOP OF WHICH, he's a CB!!! He isn't that influential, and when I say "That" I mean, he isn't going to lead your team to a Super bowl. He isn't a 2000yrd RB. He isn't a 4000yrd QB. He's a CB. If Chris Johnson turns to shit, the fact that Aso is even on the field become irrelevant. Aso CAN'T STOP THE PASS. He stops HIS SIDE. I can't even argue about this....I feel like pounding my head against a wall. The fact that anybody would think this was a good move baffles me. The happiest people alive tonight live in San Diego, Denver and Kansas City.
     
  6. Yisman

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    that's what I said. Why are you always agreeing with me?
     
  7. Yisman

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    Asomugha is much more valuable than any RB.

    I would agree they overpaid, but they pretty much had to.

    Your arguments are awful. You want to shoot Al Davis for this? What would that even accomplish?
     
  8. Mr Electric

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    Thank you sir.
     
  9. nevbeats319

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    asomugha is worth every $ out of that contract..u cant hate...yes al davis is a moron but he did something right and is keepin the best cb that everyteam drewls over
     
  10. EcKo151

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    Okay then imagine how much Revis is going to get when it's time to negotiate with him...

    Wow.
     
  11. Mr Electric

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    Asomugha is better than Darrelle Revis...at least for right now.

    I expect Revis to get Asante Samuel type money when his rookie deal ends.
     
  12. SyracuseJet

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    Asomugha is more valuable than any RB? That's a bold statement. So what you're telling me is Aso is more valuable then let's say, Adrian Peterson? You honestly can't believe that...

    You said my arguments are awful, well how about this. **Going to use A Peterson as my example since you opened this can of worms** You can't take Peterson out of a game with-out exposing yourself, ie; you put 8 in the box and leave your secondary exposed. You can take Aso out of the game by simply throwing away from him. Here's my point, Aso simply turns the game into a 10 on 10. He doesn't alter games, he alters game plans. Peterson or Manning or Brady, alter games. So you're telling me that a person who basically makes an 11 on 11 into a 10 on 10 is worth as much or more then people who alter the outcomes of games? That's insanity. Stop drinking the Kool Aid. I want you to name one coach, GM, Owner or player who'd rather have a Franchise CB over a Franchise QB, WR, RB or DE. Good luck.

    You guys seriously need to get off the guy's cock. He isn't the greatest by any means. He's great, but he isn't Champ Bailey, Deion or Dick Lane. I'm sorry, I know everybody says "But nobody will throw his way", but honestly, he's started 4 years and he's had 0int, 8int, 1int and 1int. That's not exactly a Hall of Fame resume.

    OK, I'm done ranting. Over paid. Al Davis is a cancer to the sport of football and is part of the reason the Salaries have become what they are. The rest of the AFC West is probably rejoicing at the fact that Oakland has 20% of their payroll rapped up in 3 players who aren't going to take them anywhere. The Jets will survive. God bless America. I'm done
     
  13. EcKo151

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    I'm not debating Asomugha/Revis...Asomugha is obviously better.

    But in a few years when Revis will be ready to get paid? He keeps up at this rate and he'll get a minimum of $25million in guarantees.
     
  14. Mr Electric

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    Asomougha is so much better than Champ Bailey. The ball is thrown to Aso's side of the field 1.8 times per game. You can say he erases only one player, but he actually erases half of a QB's options by taking away half of the field.

    When are you going to get this through your head? INTs aren't everything.

    He's thrown at...maybe 2 times a game...maybe. Do you expect him to have 32 INTs -- two in each game of the season.
     
  15. SyracuseJet

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    So out of 32 Passes, he catches 1? Baffling.
     
  16. Yisman

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    I do. See, here's the thing. I know football and you don't. I'm not trying to be arrogant here. Just stating the facts because arguing with you is very tiresome.

    RBs are fungible. Look at Chester Taylor the last two seasons.

    Adrian Peterson is valuable, but not nearly as valuable as Asomugha. Same for any other RB you would name.

    By the way, Asomugha is easily better than Champ Bailey. I guess I shouldn't expect you to know this, though.

    Trying to measure the status of a cornerback by interceptions is even dumber than using tackles as a barometer for corners, and that's saying something.
     
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  17. SyracuseJet

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    I skipped right passed that. You officially have ABSOLUTELY no credibility to discuss anything From here on out, what ever you have to say is moot.
     
  18. SyracuseJet

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    It is better to remain silent and appear ignorant, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
     
  19. Yisman

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    Precisely. That's why I can't understand why you even opened this thread in the first place. You should've known that your childish need to respond to everything would get you in the end.
     
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    to SyracuseJet-

    Asomugha was a 1st team All-Pro selection in 2008. Champ Bailey was not.
     

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