preseaon game 1

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  1. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    True but how many games do you win scoring zero points?
     
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    You can't blame hack for running the plays that were called and doing so successfully. Put that on bowles and morton. If they ask him to throw a 5 yard pass and he does, how it it his fault?
     
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    None Lol, but turnovers are proven to lead to points.
     
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    Ok
    How many punts lead to points?
     
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    Anybody watching the game knew we were not running with any authority, just like it wasn't Hacks fault passes were dropped.
    Hack was out there doing the least he could as to not fuck up. What the hell is so encouraging about that?
    He didn't shit the bed, whoop de doo
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Punts do. field position game. giving your offense the ball on the 45 has a much higher chance of points then staring inside your own 20. pin the offense back, defense creates turnover, bam points
     
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    it's encouraging that he didn't fuck up. imagine if he threw 4 INTs, people would be calling for his head. The way so many self hating jet fans are now, the kid coulda threw 300 yards and 4 TDs and a perfect QB rating and we'd hear "he still sucks, wait till he faces a real defense in regular season"
     
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    I'd throw 5 yard completions all day. Though Hack threw an average 6.8 yards per completion. But 3 consecutive 2 yard outs is better than 0 completions.
     
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  9. Zach

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    A certain team named Raiders won the Superbowl with a punter picked in 1st round back in the 70's.

    P.S. Good punts do two things:

    1. Moves the starting LoS away from our end zone, effectively nullifying the opponent's scoring threat.

    2. Pins the starting LoS deep into the opponent's end zone, forcing them to march long field, or, in case of 3-and-out [which is pretty often] giving the offense short field to work with.

    Punting is always preferable to turnovers.
     
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  10. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    I understand the field possession game, but a turnover that favors a punt don't mean much, so it cancels out other than the blown scoring opportunity by the offense. It all depends on which side of the field the punt goes, and where the turnover happens.
     
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    Not the same, now you are reaching.
    I realize he was facing 2's and 3's, that's what sucked. I also realize he was playing with 2's and 3's. He played with better and against better in college. So where is he? Why all the tooting his horn?
     
  12. I get that there comes a point in a game/season/career when a QB needs to be able to go through multiple progressions,find the open guy & fire accurately all in quick order.But not only have many great QBs used a quick "Check w me" 1 read type of passing game but also the modern game lends itself to it.

    Furthermore this was the type of system Hackenburg had such success w under Bill Obrien & was suggested at the time the Jets drafted him that this was the style of offense the Jets were looking to run.Maybe not dink n dunk per se but a lot of hot read/back shoulder type stuff.If & when he progresses this can certainly be catered for his best throws which are down the seam
     
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    Who wouldn't? He didn't throw 5 yard completions all day, otherwise we score multiple times.Otherwise our offense would have been unstoppable. Don't blame the runs and drops.
     
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    Like I don't know what punting does. Really?
    We didn't score
     
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    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    And I hope he looks like Montana and Brady during execution. We would win multiple Super Bowls!!!
    Thing is, he has to read the defense before and after the snap to move the ball proficiently. He is a long way from that after Saturday nights minimal success.
     
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    Blame the super vanilla offensive gameplan for a pre-season game worth nothing?
     
  17. Zach

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    I know - just, I wanted to point out that, Hack was still developing in this system.

    The stat sheet doesn't show RAC, so I wouldn't know. But if I had to add my two cents, 18/25 for 127 yards doesn't speak much of RAC. Short passes are okay, but if that doesn't lead to RACs [as we've seen here] then it won't be much at the end of the day.

    Thus, I still think, Hack is still getting used to this offense. Maybe the timing is still a little off. Maybe he is not confident that the receiver will be open by the time he has to throw the ball. Whatever that is, he still needs some time. Hopefully, that's all that he needs.
     
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  18. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    I can't argue with you on that. Hopefully all he needs is time, and me a Nerve suppressant Lol
    If he plays like freaking Nacho any further, I will hope and pray he is cut! Lol
    In pro football, most guys rise up fast and take the lead, even if it's a year or two in the league. I have more than a gut feeling, Hack is a bust.
    I hope I am totally wrong! I want a killer team, year in and out!!!
     
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    Obviously you have forgotten the sub-60% completion ratio with 2 INTs on average - and that was the [regular] Nacho. :D:D:D
     
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  20. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    With the minimal success Hack had after a year of watching, you would have thought we saw the above average Nacho.... 70% completion %, lots of completions, 0 picks, 0 TD's and we win 7-3. Just sayin
     

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